I finally got to PHL where our gate is right next to where US Airways parks one of their EMB-170’s. In addition to walking around the aircraft I talked a ramper into letting me inside to look around. Sadly there wasn’t a pilot there so the aircraft was powered down.
This thing is awesome!!! The seats are large with plenty of leg room even for us tall guys. It’s also a full standup cabin which really gives it a roomy feel. It has both a forward and aft lav. and galley, both are a good size given the aircraft size. US Airways doesn’t operate any with first class seating so it’s in a 1 class/70 seat configuration.
A mechanic showed up for a few minutes and was quite willing to talk about the airplane. Mechanically they haven’t had any problems at all. Electronically it’s a different story though. At times an outside access panel being opened can crash the computer and requiring it to be rebooted. Sounds like it’s really buggy and is quite a headache at times to deal with. Being that this is a new aircraft type it’s probably expected to have a few problems during the first year. Heck, after 8 years of service the EMB-135/145 family still has some goofy electronic quirks that need to be addressed.
We’ll here are the pictures I took today.
By: wannabe pilot - 9th July 2004 at 16:58
cool shots, only thing what looks stange is that the engines look like they are in reverse thrust all the time, they has a dark area all the way round always makes me look twice?.
If they were in reverse thrust you would see the rear part of the engine cowling separate from the front part, thus with a gap in between.
By: wilag - 9th July 2004 at 14:37
cool shots, only thing what looks stange is that the engines look like they are in reverse thrust all the time, they has a dark area all the way round always makes me look twice?.
By: purser - 9th July 2004 at 10:12
Excellant photos WD and an excellant a/c, very photogenic!
By: RIPConcorde - 8th July 2004 at 19:38
Excellent shots! 🙂 It’s great to have you here on these forums providing us with these amazing in-sights! 🙂 Although, it just gets me even more jealous!
By: bmi-star - 8th July 2004 at 19:03
Great WD! I like the EMB 170.
Why not ERJ 170?
By: A330Crazy - 8th July 2004 at 18:38
😮 Jealous of you sir!!! – The phrase Lucky sod comes to mind. Some ace shots WD. 🙂 Cheers for those.
By: wannabe pilot - 8th July 2004 at 17:02
Absolutely fantastic shots WD! That cockpit looks very nice and simple to operate, and it looks a lot bigger on the inside than it does on the outside!
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th July 2004 at 16:21
Yes, very impressive shots Whiskey Delta!
By: LBARULES - 8th July 2004 at 15:46
Great photos as ever 🙂 Looks like a cracking machine.
Just thinking last night, BMi should order some of these. Why?
Well on routes such as LBA-GLA, they average about 70 PAX on an F100. A bit of a waste of an A319 but way to many for a 145. EMB 170 or 190 surely would be perfect.
By: MapleLeaf_330 - 8th July 2004 at 15:16
Great pictures (as always). I was just in PHL, holy busy airport Batman. I flew on AC’s CRJ200 and we parked between UA 757 (huge) and their CRJ700 (pretty big as well).
By: EAL_KING - 8th July 2004 at 14:44
brill pics whiskey delta
By: Whiskey Delta - 8th July 2004 at 14:38
On a side note, do you think that the ERJ145 is underpowered from a pilots point of view? A friend seems to think so, but I don’t know.
Depends on the model. The 145ER with AE3007A1 engines is underpowered. Ours have been upgraded to the AE3005A1/P (same as the 145LR) which is better and I wouldn’t call it underpowered. The EMB-135ER and LR have the AE3007A1/3 engine and climbs out pretty good. I’ve never thought it to be underpowered.
The newest version, EMB-145XR which we happen to be the only operator of so far I believe, is powered very nicely with the AE3007A1/E. This version gives us quite a bit of power allowing for great takeoff performance and climb performance. I’ve been able to hold 1500 fpm in the climb all the way up to FL370 before.
Now this is my impression with the engines we have. I know RR has made a number of versions of the AE3007. Match that with the numerous version of the EMB-145 family and there can be tons of power/weight combos. Some are bad and some are good. The earliest verions weren’t that good but the latest ones are outstanding.
By: Bmused55 - 8th July 2004 at 14:26
Wd is there an extent of FLight Deck Commonality between the two (re: Airbus range)
I’m sure the wing/engine configuration would not allow for that.
By: Whiskey Delta - 8th July 2004 at 13:56
Do you mean between the EMB-145 family and the -170 family? No, it’s a different type rating. I’m not sure about between the -190 and -170. I’m sure Embraer will be pushing to give them both a single type but that will be decided soon.
By: andrewm - 8th July 2004 at 10:03
Wd is there an extent of FLight Deck Commonality between the two (re: Airbus range)
By: Ren Frew - 8th July 2004 at 08:34
Great shots WD, although I have to say that the cockpit seats remind me of a WC ! (lol) 😀
Seriously though it looks like Embraer have another success story on their hands, looking forward to seeing some UK examples as soon as possible.
By: skycruiser - 8th July 2004 at 05:02
Well done WD, another batch of quality photos’s. Great insight to the EMB170…thanks
By: steve rowell - 8th July 2004 at 04:15
Quite an impressive little aircraft, excellent shots as usual, i’m impressed with the office shot
By: Whiskey Delta - 8th July 2004 at 04:12
Picture from the office from a few hours ago. 🙂
By: Whiskey Delta - 8th July 2004 at 04:10
Wow, we can upload 10 images now at a time. Nice addition to the forums.
The previous pictures are a bit out of order. For some reason in the upload they got reorganized.
The cockpit has a very clean setup and there are noticable improvements over the EMB-145. You can tell that Embraer is taking notes from pilots/operators. I particularly like the improved parking brake and variable speed brakes.
I’ve been told by friends who have gotten the EMB-170 tour while it’s powered up that the avionics and EICAS systems are outstanding. I’m impressed!
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