April 18, 2004 at 5:02 pm
What’s always bugged me is how old paint on an aircraft is removed?
Are heat stripers used or is some kind of chemical.
By: Ren Frew - 19th April 2004 at 20:28
Originally posted by wannabe pilot
Yes Bhoy, made by Lockheed Martin. They are of a fairly similar design though….who copied who?! 😉
The C-5, once the world’s largest aircraft was the first of the two. It’s fair to say Mr Antonov took some inspiration from the design.
By: Ren Frew - 19th April 2004 at 20:26
Originally posted by Britannia
So what was the Pepsi Concorde used for, the flight to JFK or just flights in Europe?
Purely as a promotional tool for the relaunch of Pepsi Cola in Europe in a blue packaging. As mentioned, it didn’t do anything supersonic in that livery.
By: wannabe pilot - 19th April 2004 at 20:23
Yes Bhoy, made by Lockheed Martin. They are of a fairly similar design though….who copied who?! 😉
By: Ren Frew - 19th April 2004 at 20:23
Originally posted by Britannia
Thanks for the info, are C-5 Galaxies a version of the AN-124?
No, they are a unique designs by Lockheed. The C-5 is in fact the winner of a design competition by the US military to find a new high capacity air transporter. One of the other candidates that wasn’t chosen went on to be a certain high capacity airliner by a little old company named Boeing. The rest as they say is history. 😀
By: Bhoy - 19th April 2004 at 20:19
C5’s are American, so they’re hardly likely to be versions of Antonovs… Not quite up on Military, but I *think* they’re built by Lockheed.
By: Britannia - 19th April 2004 at 19:33
Thanks for the info, are C-5 Galaxies a version of the AN-124?
By: Arm Waver - 19th April 2004 at 14:58
I’ve stripped the paint off light aircraft in the past.
We used Daysic (spelling??) It was horrible stuff. Get it on your skin and it burnt. Get it on your clothes and they stank and despite washing you couldn’t shift the smell.
It was “painted” on with brushes and if the paint was applied properly in the first place or not baked on though years it would bubble and fall off in sheets – odd to watch. Failing that it was out with glass paper/wet ‘n’ dry and rub it off. Potentially a long job.
Once the paint was off the aircraft we would then wash down the plane with cold fresh water. and sweep up the residue and dispose of where told (in a certain bit I think it was)
It was a job that HAD to be done in a well ventillated area.
OAW
By: Bhoy - 19th April 2004 at 14:33
Pepsi chartered the AF Concorde for 5 days to do a tour of Europe, promoting their new corportae colours. It did not carry pax, nor did it go Supersonic, which it couldn’t as has been rightly said, due to the colours (which would have melted at supersonic speeds).
Incidentally, Jean, while Concorde latterly only operated to JFK and BA’s weekly service to Barbados, they previously operated scheduled flights to, amongst others, IAD and MIA.
By: batbay - 18th April 2004 at 20:44
Good on you Arthur – you’re bringing some sanity and interest back into the Forum:D
By: Britannia - 18th April 2004 at 20:05
I know that, I was just wondering about the Pepsi one because it couldn’t go super-sonic
By: Jeanske_SN - 18th April 2004 at 19:55
Originally posted by Britannia
So what was the Pepsi Concorde used for, the flight to JFK or just flights in Europe?
Huh, the concorde was only used for flights to JFK and ba sometimes operated them to barbados. Concorde never flies scheduled trough Europe! It was available for charter, tough.
By: GLAsgow - 18th April 2004 at 19:53
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/366465/L/
A pic of what will be a very long job
By: Arthur - 18th April 2004 at 18:44
Hope you guys don’t mind a military bit of background 😉
The weight of paint on a plane is also dependent on the type of paint used. The drab camouflaged European One scheme (two dark greens and a dark grey) on C-5 Galaxies weighed some three tons heavier than the current overall grey. Bonus of the curent satin finish over the matt camo is also that it’s less draggy. With civil paintjobs being gloss, they are even less draggy.
Heavy:
Light:
By: Distiller - 18th April 2004 at 18:17
Old paint is removed by blasting it with little spheric plastic pellets or dry ice. The paint on a B747 weighs about 500kg. A more recent development is using foils instead of painting the a/c. Has a lot of advantages, but is rarely used; don’t know why.
By: Britannia - 18th April 2004 at 18:16
So what was the Pepsi Concorde used for, the flight to JFK or just flights in Europe?
By: by738 - 18th April 2004 at 18:15
Is it not something to do with the actual colour of Concorde ?
I think they have to be almost completely white so to reflect some of the heat generated at supersonic speeds -hence the reason Concorde was never painted in true full BA Landor grey and blue.:)
By: EN830 - 18th April 2004 at 18:11
Originally posted by wannabe pilot
In relation to En’s post, I think it was the Air France Concorde in the Pepsi livery, that made it too heavy to go super-sonic. Or something like that anyway :confused:
I’d not heard that, the story that I heard or possibly read was definitely about the SAAF DC3’s
By: wannabe pilot - 18th April 2004 at 18:06
In relation to En’s post, I think it was the Air France Concorde in the Pepsi livery, that made it too heavy to go super-sonic. Or something like that anyway :confused:
By: EN830 - 18th April 2004 at 18:02
I heard that at one time SAAF C47/DC3’s has so much paint on them, that it reduced the amount of payload that they could carry.
By: rekkof2004 - 18th April 2004 at 17:29
Paint is removed with paint stripper there are many differant types,they are a lot stronger than what you buy in the shops.
Its not the best job to do ,but it has to be done.
F-16’s are shot blasted [at least the RNAF]
Peter