Let's now have an aviation chat!

Originally posted by Bhoy
I still say Concorde would be impractical for freighter use… because of the position of the wings, you couldn’t install a side door, so any cargo carried in the cabin (as opposed to the luggage compartment) would have to be loaded through the pax doors, one item at a time, and by hand. You’d surely lose any time gained in flight by having to load the aircraft this way. Plus the Additional cost of fuel, and I really think the whole FedEx idea wasn’t thought through and was totally stillborn.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

On the top of this , what would be the advantage to cargo stuff in 3 hours to JFK instead of 5. Is it really important for freight?

Maybe for flowers , strawberrys or alive animals?

I still say Concorde would be impractical for freighter use… because of the position of the wings, you couldn’t install a side door, so any cargo carried in the cabin (as opposed to the luggage compartment) would have to be loaded through the pax doors, one item at a time, and by hand. You’d surely lose any time gained in flight by having to load the aircraft this way. Plus the Additional cost of fuel, and I really think the whole FedEx idea wasn’t thought through and was totally stillborn.

Concorde as a freighter: hmmmm not likely. However let’s keep in mind that his cousin (TU144) has been used as a freighter for a while after the crash at LeBourget.

I said IF passengers can’t be on it then it could be a freighter!

Actually, FedEx seriously looked at operating Concorde for their high priority express deliveries. For some deliveries time is of the essence and money is not important. For those Concorde would have operated, and likely operated somewhat profitably!

With the fuel you use to get concorde over the atlantic, I think you could get a 767 freighter to Las Vegas. Freight compânies have to be very careful with their plane usage. Concorde even couldn’t be a freighter because it’s so small. Whata stupid idea.

that would be good for sameday delivery companies

ok you must be mad to want that for speedbird 001:rolleyes:

Re: Let’s now have an aviation chat!

Originally posted by skylinerworld

What should they have done with concorde?
Well I think if they couldn’t have passengers on they should be freighters.

skylinerworld.

Huh!!!!! are you serious????

Yes the visitor centre at Heathrow is rubbish ,Hatton Cross is far far better for action,

I’m still of the opinion Concorde went too soon.

What I’d like to know and would ask your opinions on, is that if Concorde had sold to all the operators that signed up and then pulled out, and if it made a profit and subsequently funded future SST development, where would we be now in terms of high speed airliner travel?

Will there ever be another SST, is the sonic boom insurmountable ?

A forced, yet sensible thread atlast! 🙂 Ok other people are making the effort, my turn!

I would have very much liked to see Concorde go to Virgin Atlantic, like I’m sure many others would. However, it was very obvious why this couldn’t happen, what with Airbus not supporting it any more, and BA refusing to sell them, so I didn’t get my hopes up too much! She was once a great aircraft that graced the skies, atleast now we have those wonderful memories of her, that can be stirred every time we see her parked up in a museum.

Viewing?! At Heathrow?! Seems like a bit of a no-go for me, however I still very much enjoy sitting along the perimter roads having the planes go over my head. Speaking of viewing, anyone know how and where you can spot at Gatwick if the aircraft are on 08R (other than from the viewing terrace)?

I personally like Fokker, they seem to be more original and they produced an interesting array of aircraft in their time. But, I give the credit to Embraer, from pulling themselves out of the hole they were in a few years back and now taking a huge place in the regional market. I’m also very much looking forward to seeing (for real) the -190! 😀

Well,just helping to get the forum back to aviation chat and get myself in people’s good books again!We need a happy forum.
Not a ‘argument of the day’ kind of thing! 🙂
skylinerworld.

I agree with you on the visitor center its rubbish i found Hatton Cross the best place.

Re: Let’s now have an aviation chat!

Originally posted by skylinerworld
…let’s now forget arguments and have an aviation chat.Alright I’ll start a few things off:
What should they have done with concorde?
Well I think if they couldn’t have passengers on they should be freighters.
Viewing @ Heathrow.
Well,well,well,this needs to be improved!That’s all I can say about this one!
Which do you like,Fokker or Embraer and why?
Well,I don’t know,maybe Embraer because KLM give them a bad point of view with the state of them!
There,
skylinerworld.

Well done skylinerworld. At least you are making an effort.

Concorde was another accident waiting to happen. I’m pleased they were grounded. They were never truly successful as a pax aircraft so there is no way in the world they could ever earn their keep as freighters.

Viewing at Heathrow. You mean viewing is available? Don’t like the visitor centre and hanker for the days of the 70’s and 80’s when you could spend all day on the Queen’s building. I hear that that was closed as it had no disabled access. As someone with a disability myself I would still like to see it open even if I can’t access it.

Embraer or Fokker? Doesn’t really bother me. But the Fokkers have a dirty tail (starboard side?) due to the positioning of the APU exhaust.

Anyone else care to join in?

Regards,

kev35