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Just a point about the C-20’s (Gulf4). They are not all “Doomes Day” planes. Most of them are “normal” VIP transports in the USAF.

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Thanks! Yes I wonder about that white stripe? (I took the liberty of “zooming” your picture). Anyway please keep posting – one at a time!

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It seems everyone’s support has silenced the Bahnhaus experience here in the Commerical Aviation section. Thanks. 🙂

Originally posted by atc pal
WD – if it was at Toledo Express Airport you “snapped” the A-7 and F-100, maybe it was “historic” aircraft from Ohio Air National Guard? (112th Fighter Squadron/ 180th Fighter Group) They flew both before the present F-16.

However there is a private F-100F N26AZ, registered to El Greco Air Inc. El Paso, Tx. (David Tokoph, Aero Zambia CEO). That’s, as you say, a real private jet, but with a backseat for the wife! Unlike the D-model you photographed.

(Sorry for the scanning. It is from a Danish book and the photographer is James C. Bates)

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My picture was taken in Iowa but I can’t believe that there are too many F-100’s in private hands. If a batch of them came out of the Toledo unit then perhaps the Iowa aircraft was one of them.

Even though I would probably kill myself in it, an F-100 would be one sweet jet to have in your own hangar.

What a fukwit you are barndance.

Greetings from the Historic and General forums, my Jumbo friends.

Mark

Originally posted by Bahnhaus
Now you see this is what really annoys me! Take a look at Whiskey Deltas posts! what is he playing at ?

Hey Mister “I’m the king of the world”.
Start to bring on this forum 1% of WD’s contribution and you’ll be accepted as a member, otherwise , please shut the f*** up.

Originally posted by Bahnhaus
Now you see this is what really annoys me! Take a look at Whiskey Deltas posts! what is he playing at ?

Now you see, you are starting to annoy everybody. Sorry guys, I was away for a weekend, and I come back to this neolithic incompetence, so I had to get my 2 cents in. You obviously don’t have a damn clue, Bahnhaus. You’re a rookie here, and come in talking all sorts of mess. You’re a disgrace to that California flag you’re flying. Whiskey Delta, outstanding pics, as usual. Keep posting them, even if it takes 100 posts per thread.

WD – if it was at Toledo Express Airport you “snapped” the A-7 and F-100, maybe it was “historic” aircraft from Ohio Air National Guard? (112th Fighter Squadron/ 180th Fighter Group) They flew both before the present F-16.

However there is a private F-100F N26AZ, registered to El Greco Air Inc. El Paso, Tx. (David Tokoph, Aero Zambia CEO). That’s, as you say, a real private jet, but with a backseat for the wife! Unlike the D-model you photographed.

(Sorry for the scanning. It is from a Danish book and the photographer is James C. Bates)

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The designation changed in 1977 from VC-9C to C-9C. One C-9A (67-22586) was lost in a mishap at Scott Field 16’th of September 1971.

I read in a magazine that all the C-9’s are retiring. It is also quite noisy with those old JT8’s

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Found it! On 29’th of January 2003 the VIP-one made circuit training here. “Tune 75” c/n 71-0882.

The C-9C (3 acquired in 1973) was originally known as VC-9C. Operated from Andrews in blue and white livery.

The C-9A (DC-9-30) was the Nightingale for medevac. There were 21. 20 with a red cross on the tail. The last one was a VIP transport for Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) from Chievres Belgium.

The above mentioned book by R. F. Dorr has many “gems” about the different presidents. Carter had the VC-137 renamed C-137 to be less ostentatious. The colour scheme was also toned down.

C-9As are Nightingales. Not sure if that one would have a different name or not? You’ll often see C-9As operating from Mildenhall.

Originally posted by EGNM
i remember a V9-C being in at LBA a year or so back… in fact theres a picture of it here…

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/312659/M/

a V9-C is basically a DC-9-32 aircraft.

Is that the model/version that is called the Nightinggale? Or perhaps that name would better suit a Medical aircraft I guess.

I guess his re-election….so sorry…….morale boosting visit to the troops compares with his heroic Vietnam record.

Originally posted by Whiskey Delta
Just FYI, any USAF aircraft that the President flies in is called Air Force 1. .

Seem to remember Dubya was a little shy of using the ‘Air Force One’ callsign on his heroic two nanosecond visit to Iraq.

Originally posted by Whiskey Delta
I haven’t seen any other aircraft other than the 707/757/747/G3’s in that livery but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t others I guess. I remember seeing other biz jets and turboprops used by the government but I can’t remember if any of them were painted as such.

i remember a V9-C being in at LBA a year or so back… in fact theres a picture of it here…

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/312659/M/

a V9-C is basically a DC-9-32 aircraft.

C-20C Gulfstream 4’s that follow Air Force One is emergency war-order aircraft to move high ranking personnel and the President in event of a nuclear conflict. No glass cockpit but old type round dials to withstand EMP.

“Air Force One” by Robert F. Dorr

I haven’t seen any other aircraft other than the 707/757/747/G3’s in that livery but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t others I guess. I remember seeing other biz jets and turboprops used by the government but I can’t remember if any of them were painted as such.

I’ve only seen high up military officials and government folks use that fleet. The president uses the 747 as his main ride and would probably only use something smaller if the destination had operational limitations (too small of a runway) but that’s something I’ve never seen done. The VP uses the 757 primarily. The only reason I can see the VP or Secretary of Defense needing such a large aircraft is not for themselves but because of the large group that follows them around. Throw in a handful of reporters, support staff, crew members and other odds and ends of PR stuff and they can fill up a 757 pretty quickly.

Just FYI, any USAF aircraft that the President flies in is called Air Force 1. The 747 (VC-25a) is only called that when he’s on board and uses another generic call sign when he’s not. If he were to fly in a F-16, that aircraft would be called Air Force 1. The same holds true for the other branches of the service. When he flew onto the aircraft carrier last year the Navy aircraft used the callsign Navy 1. The flight on the Marine helicopter to the White House is referred to Marine 1. The VP gets the Air Force/Marine/Navy/etc. 2 callsign. There is a callsign if either were to fly a civilian aircraft but I can’t remember what it is. Someone told me about it years ago but have since forgotten it.

anyone know who uses usaf gulfstreams is it people like the security general guy ect?

The UA CRJ looks cool, I love the poster in the latest Airliner World of the UA B777

Originally posted by Woundsinger
Nice shot Skycruiser.I have to admit that I have only ever seen the B747 in that c/s.Can anyone tell me how many other craft are in that particular c/s.

There’s a 757 in “Air Force One” colours too isn’t there ? Does the president always use the 747 for official business, do other government officials use the fleet as well ?