US airways A330 makes flapless landing at MAN

At Flap 30 on a 757, if you overspeed then load alleviation will occur retracting the flaps to 25 until the speed reduces back to below 162 knots (168 knots on the 300). Do any airbus types do this or does it just rely on autothrottle not allowing a higher speed for the relevant flap setting?

Oh I see…it’s just another 3 letter acronym for a device that does the same job as that on a Boeing to stop flap/slat asymetries.

Can we have some more info about these please. I’ve never come across them before and guess they are about to become part of my day to day existence on the A340! 😎

The 757 lands firmly off a flapless approach due to reduced amount of tail clearance from the high approach attitude to flare adequately to arrest the descent rate. Done correctly the landing will still be within limits but it requires much more finesse than a normal flap 25 or 30 landing. Bearing in mind that you get to practice one in the sim every three years you can perhaps see where the problem lies.

Woo bleedin hoo.

This does happen once in a while on the Airbus FBW. No big deal trust me.

Just follow ECAM and the QRH procedure, no big deal.

If flap or slat asymettry is detected the WTB(wing tip brakes) are engaged, its an Airbus thing LOL.

Brakes may get a tad hot, firm landing, why?? Hard landing is defined in most company Ops manuals. Airbus FBW actually cough up on the lower EACM if you land with “G”. Only seen it once in 11 years, wasn’t my landing, honest !!

I nice little sharpener after 10 hrs across the pond, yeehaw.

Spotty M Driver.

Just what you need after a long boring flight over water

From our perspective the main worries for landing without trailing edge devices are:

1) high approach and touchdown speeds means a lot of energy has to be killed through the brakes.

2) this also means a lot of runway length required. Combine this with icy wintry weather and you’ve got a big problem.

3) a very high body angle on the approach due to lack of flaps will mean almost no flare available or you will strike the tail. The landing/arrival is going to be FIRM.

4) because the approach has to be flown with relatively little drag the thrust settings will be low. In the event of a go-around there is a large risk of seriously asymetric spool up.

Why not land with only the leading edge deployed? Is this a huge no-no? Would they have the check the landing gear, etc. after this landing?

Let’s hope this wil not stop the MAN route. US A333 is a nice addition to see at MAN

Originally posted by Mark L
Thats like the 3rd time a US Airways A330 has gone tech at MAN in the past month!

Realy?!

Just speculation here, but I seem to remember Qantas complaining about the same thing

Thats like the 3rd time a US Airways A330 has gone tech at MAN in the past month!

Originally posted by Hand87_5
Bravo : well trained pilot 🙂

Bit of excitment at the end of a long flight. Well done to the crew for keeping a level head

Bravo : well trained pilot 🙂