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What would you (not) like to fly in?

To complement the excellent “When was your first flight” thread:

In which aircraft are you longing for a flight, and are there any in which you would only set your foot if it were in a museum?

For me it’s the following:

As a passenger I would dearly love to (in order of preference) fly in

– a fighter jet, preferably an F-16, F-18 or MiG-29;
– a 2-seat Spitfire;
– a business jet, preferably a Lear Jet, Citation X or Gulfstream V

As a PPL I’d like to

– get an instrument rating so that I could put the club Turbo Arrow to proper use;
– learn to fly a taildragger, such as a Tiger Moth or a PA-18-90
– sample a single-engine turbine (TBM700, Caravan, PC-12 or PC-7/9)
– sample a Cirrus SR22 with one of those fancy new glass cockpits
– acquire an aerobatics rating in an Extra 300L
– sample a modern 3-axis microlight (Fascination or Pegasus CT2)

I’d never

– want to pilot a Bf109 or Pitts S1 regardless of how much experience I would ever accumulate;
– fly in a privately operated, ex-military jet;
– fly as a passenger in a general aviation aircraft with a pilot whose skills level and currency are unknown to me;
– fly in a high-performance homebuilt, such as a Lancair IV or Glasair
– fly with a number of airlines who have hit the headlines in a negative way in the last few years

Over to you…. 😀

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By: 4 engines good - 20th February 2004 at 18:38

I’d love to fly on the upper deck of a 744. Been on the lower deck on 3 occasions but not upstairs.

Wouldn’t lose any sleep if I don’t fly on a 737 again- slow, cramped things. Much prefer the A320.

I’d love it if someone bought me one of those red letter day packages to fly a Mig 29, or even better that big Russian military cargo plane where you achieve zero gravity as it free-dives. 🙂

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By: mikeconnell - 20th February 2004 at 18:21

Originally posted by MINIDOH
Mikeconnell, if an aircraft is dirty and that makes it not airworthy then surely they should clean it. Im not prepared to go into the detail of actually how bad the aircraft was, but take my word for it, it was bad.

I don’t think you quite got the point of my post. I was saying that you can not tell a plane’s airworthyness by its looks. We can take it that Air France’s ships are the most airworthy in the sky (along with pretty well all other US / Western European / First World Asian / Australian majors) – the dirty exterior does not change that – while an airplane that is missing a major component is not made airworthy by a fresh coat of paint.

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By: LGKR - 20th February 2004 at 12:27

sorry guys but im finding it really hard to grasp the fact that you think Ryanair arn’t safe to fly? If this was the case to the degree some members are mentioning then would the airline still be flying the hundereds (or thousands) of flights that they do everyday?

I accept the fact that locos (perhaps because of the shear nature of their business – high utilisation, low turnaround flights) dont commit to non-essential maintenace as regularly as BA or Bmi perhaps would do (even sweet wrappers in the seat pockets wouldnt bother me) but certainly dont accept the fact that they would fly “un-air-worthy” aircraft.

For one, i believe that a single accident involving Ryanair aircraft would possibly begin to be the end for the airline. i think the media would start its cheap fares = unsafe a/c hype and thus dramatically affect the turnover and profitability of the airline – particuarly after the recent media coverage about cost cutting luxuries from a/c and the subsidy rulings. If you think about it in a business sense do you think Ryanair wouldn’t have thought about bits like this through; looking at what results poorly maintained birds may hold for the airline in the long run!? :rolleyes:

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By: MINIDOH - 20th February 2004 at 11:27

Mikeconnell, if an aircraft is dirty and that makes it not airworthy then surely they should clean it. Im not prepared to go into the detail of actually how bad the aircraft was, but take my word for it, it was bad.

“The mirrors which line up the two red lines to check if the landing gear is down were completely covered in muck and he said they hadnt been cleaned for at least a month.”
If that is the case, then they should clean the mirrors!!! What would Ryanair say if a plane had to use the mirrors and then discovered that they couldnt because the aircraft hadnt been maintained properly?

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By: mikeconnell - 20th February 2004 at 10:49

I won’t fly Ryanair again either, but not because of any safety concern – I believe them to be as safe as most carriers.

It’s more because of their customer service or lack of it.

Someone mentioned looking airworthy. How would you tell from looking? The reason I ask is that AF’s aircraft are often filthy from the outside, but I think we can take it for granted that AF maintain their aircraft to 110% flightworthyness.

At the same time a less-reputable airline could have a plane fresh from the paint shop with (say) part of the landing gear missing if its exam wasn’t done properly.

Just a few thoughts.

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By: T5 - 20th February 2004 at 10:40

Ryanair are fine for short haul hops. I f you don’t mind being catered for in a dirty cabin with crap lying about everywhere and the possibility that your lifejacket may not be there should the worst happen, then Ryanair is for you. 😀

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By: Airline owner - 20th February 2004 at 09:00

I dont fancy a 757 but i would like to fly in either a A321 or a B777

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By: EAL_KING - 19th February 2004 at 23:50

tunisair are good i flew monastir – tunis tunis – libya last august v.good service

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By: steve rowell - 19th February 2004 at 23:40

Nothing from China, the CIS or Africa

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By: starjet - 19th February 2004 at 22:57

Never Ryanair, African Airlines besides RAM, Tunisair and SAA, or a Il-62. Or El Al

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By: frankvw - 19th February 2004 at 22:19

Personally, I’ll try to avoid flights with comanies based in central Africa 😀

Small companies in the ex Soviet Union will be regarded in the same way…

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By: kurmitz28 - 19th February 2004 at 21:51

Originally posted by MINIDOH
I will NEVER fly with Ryanair. When I did work experience with GO Airlines, the Captain showed me the Ryanair aircraft next to our 733. The mirrors which line up the two red lines to check if the landing gear is down were completely covered in muck and he said they hadnt been cleaned for at least a month. He also showed me a lot of other (more complex) stuff which was wrong with the aircraft and told me how they overwork their pilots. I dont want to start an anti ryanair post though, just mine and the Captains opinions, thats all.

Two years ago I had a business trip and I flew Ryanair, Stanstead to Pisa. I cant remember which aircraft but it had gaffer tape down the port side! The flight back on their ‘Jaguar’ a/c wasnt too exciting either as the tyres were flat which made the landing a little too spongy to be safe…… Never again

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By: MINIDOH - 19th February 2004 at 21:32

I will NEVER fly with Ryanair. When I did work experience with GO Airlines, the Captain showed me the Ryanair aircraft next to our 733. The mirrors which line up the two red lines to check if the landing gear is down were completely covered in muck and he said they hadnt been cleaned for at least a month. He also showed me a lot of other (more complex) stuff which was wrong with the aircraft and told me how they overwork their pilots. I dont want to start an anti ryanair post though, just mine and the Captains opinions, thats all.

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By: EAL_KING - 19th February 2004 at 21:24

id like to have flown in a concorde but now they are retired a a340-600

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By: T5 - 19th February 2004 at 21:06

I don’t know if I’d ever want to set foot on a Sovet-built aircraft.

But something I would like to fly… hmm.. I’ve never flown on a Prop, so a Dash 8, Saab 340/2000 or DHC-6 would be nice! 😀

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By: tenthije - 19th February 2004 at 21:03

there is not a single plane type i’d rule out straight away. But i do want it to look airworthy. Properly maintained and everything. Some of the aircraft from african and asian airlines don’t look too safe and i’d probably not fly them where i given the opportunity.

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By: green320 - 19th February 2004 at 20:57

I don’t ever want to repeat the experiences I had on the same Tristar two years running. I want to fly a Jumbo as I have never been in one.

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By: Bmused55 - 19th February 2004 at 20:49

for some reason a specific word comes to mind when I read this topic title

Begins with A, ends with S and has irbu in the middle. Hmmmm

LOL!!!
😉 😀 😀

Seriously though…. I’ll fly just about anything

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