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Hi guys Im going up to Manchester for a couple of days spotting in April. Does anybody know anything about cheap hotels? I have looked at the Airport Hotel that overlooks the runway. Looks cheap but a bit ropey?And seems to have no parking.Anybody got any comments on that or any other hotel??

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By: Airline owner - 24th January 2009 at 19:23

My Mother-in-law is cheap but there’s nothing soft about her!!!

Lol!! 😀

nice shots there, like that 2nd First choice 76 shot.

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By: steve rowell - 24th January 2009 at 03:18

There is a certain softness about all of them.
Is it a cheap lens? (I have the same problem with my Tamron)

My Mother-in-law is cheap but there’s nothing soft about her!!!

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By: MattGarner - 23rd January 2009 at 23:20

Very nice Matt indeed! i was stood quiet close to you, did you see me, a lad with a hat on and a huddy over it? i sound chav but i was just keeping warm haha!

Will post my photos in a minute in another thread 🙂

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Danny

Sorry for the late reply, jesus. I don’t quite remember :P! I probably could if i seen your face. I keep an eye out next time, yeah it was bloody cold that day 😛

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By: jonezi06 - 5th January 2009 at 14:43

Very nice Matt indeed! i was stood quiet close to you, did you see me, a lad with a hat on and a huddy over it? i sound chav but i was just keeping warm haha!

Will post my photos in a minute in another thread 🙂

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By: PMN - 4th January 2009 at 22:56

Could that be to do with how much you have to drink by any chance Paul?:p:diablo:

I never drink. Ask A Spalding, Tom@EMA, Grey Area, LBARULES, Wannabe Pilot, Jonezi06, EGNM or any other forum members I’ve… Err… Been quite drunk with. Dammit… That didn’t work! 😀

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By: cloud_9 - 4th January 2009 at 22:04

That said, most of my photos come out blurry anyway, regardless of what I do with the camera! 😀

Paul

Could that be to do with how much you have to drink by any chance Paul?:p:diablo:

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By: PMN - 4th January 2009 at 15:15

Thanks Paul! Does the photographer have to move the camera to track the moving object, whilst pressing the button?

Yep, the photographer tracks the moving subject making it relatively still as far as the camera is concerned. Everything else in the background then appears to move quickly and is blurred as a result of that movement. If you held the camera still as the aircraft went by, you’d get the exact opposite effect. The background would be still and sharp but the plane would be blurred. 🙂

That said, most of my photos come out blurry anyway, regardless of what I do with the camera! 😀

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By: symon - 4th January 2009 at 15:07

Thanks Paul! Does the photographer have to move the camera to track the moving object, whilst pressing the button?

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By: PMN - 4th January 2009 at 11:56

As a non-photographer, how are the pictures with the ‘stationary’ aircraft’ and ‘moving background’ technically possible? i.e. pics 6/7/9. How does the camera focus on the moving vehicle and blur the ‘moving’ background?

Symon, as the camera tracks the aircraft or vehicle, whatever’s around it moves quite fast while the subject stays fairly stationary in the frame. Because the shutter speed is relatively slow it has a tendancy to freeze the subject but blur everything else that’s moving. The human eye does a very similar thing (the way the brain processes the image is very different to how a camera does but the optical principles of a camera lens and the human eye are identical). If you’re on a fast moving train looking out of the window at the line next to your train, you see it as a blur unless you momentarily ‘track’ it or follow it quickly with your eyes. This is because the ‘refresh rate’ of human vision is around 1/30th of a second so we see things with a slow ‘shutter speed’ which blurs fast moving objects, but we can see things in detail if we follow them quickly. Following it quickly and freezing it is essentially similar to what the camera is doing when you see a sharp, in focus subject but a background blurred by motion.

As a general bit of trivia, the spiral in the centre of the spinner on turbofan engines is partly there to scare birds away. It sounds ridiculous, but the ‘refresh rate’ of a birds vision is much, much higher than that of humans, so whereas we see it as a blur, birds can see it in very clear detail and find it quite alarming so they’ll avoid it.

Can you tell I’ve spent far, far too much time on the internet?! 😀

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By: symon - 4th January 2009 at 04:18

As a non-photographer, how are the pictures with the ‘stationary’ aircraft’ and ‘moving background’ technically possible? i.e. pics 6/7/9. How does the camera focus on the moving vehicle and blur the ‘moving’ background?

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By: PMN - 4th January 2009 at 00:19

Where did you get the exif data from?

Save it, and then either right click and look at the advanced properties or open it in Photoshop to see the file info/EXIF data, then delete it. 🙂

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By: old shape - 3rd January 2009 at 23:49

I get sharp results from my Tamron 28-300 and that’s supposedly the worst one of the lot!

That’s a fine start with a DSLR, Matt! There is indeed a little softness to a couple of them but a quick changing of settings should help. I notice for your EK 777 shot you were using Aperture Priority at f/16 and ISO 400 giving you a shutter speed of 1/125th, which is a little on the slow side meaning it’s much easier to get blur. Firstly, try dropping the ISO to 200. This will have the effect of halving the shutter speed to around 1/60th but if you then drop the aperture down to around f/8, you should get shutter speeds of about 1/250th and your images should be a little sharper.

Hope that helps, and feel free to drop me a PM if I can help. 🙂

Paul

Agree, 250th plus is needed on a tele.
Where did you get the exif data from?

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By: MattGarner - 3rd January 2009 at 23:27

I get sharp results from my Tamron 28-300 and that’s supposedly the worst one of the lot!

That’s a fine start with a DSLR, Matt! There is indeed a little softness to a couple of them but a quick changing of settings should help. I notice for your EK 777 shot you were using Aperture Priority at f/16 and ISO 400 giving you a shutter speed of 1/125th, which is a little on the slow side meaning it’s much easier to get blur. Firstly, try dropping the ISO to 200. This will have the effect of halving the shutter speed to around 1/60th but if you then drop the aperture down to around f/8, you should get shutter speeds of about 1/250th and your images should be a little sharper.

Hope that helps, and feel free to drop me a PM if I can help. 🙂

Paul

First of, thanks for all the comments people. Also thanks Paul for the advice. I shall contact you if do need any help 🙂

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By: Bristol_Rob - 3rd January 2009 at 17:32

nice set of shots Matt

keep up the good work

Rob
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By: PMN - 3rd January 2009 at 14:35

Is it a cheap lens? (I have the same problem with my Tamron)

I get sharp results from my Tamron 28-300 and that’s supposedly the worst one of the lot!

That’s a fine start with a DSLR, Matt! There is indeed a little softness to a couple of them but a quick changing of settings should help. I notice for your EK 777 shot you were using Aperture Priority at f/16 and ISO 400 giving you a shutter speed of 1/125th, which is a little on the slow side meaning it’s much easier to get blur. Firstly, try dropping the ISO to 200. This will have the effect of halving the shutter speed to around 1/60th but if you then drop the aperture down to around f/8, you should get shutter speeds of about 1/250th and your images should be a little sharper.

Hope that helps, and feel free to drop me a PM if I can help. 🙂

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By: UPSMD11f - 3rd January 2009 at 12:40

Some really good shots considering the poor weather.I particularly like the Delta ’57,Virgin,the last Thomas cook and the fire engine.

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By: old shape - 3rd January 2009 at 12:40

There is a certain softness about all of them.
Is it a cheap lens? (I have the same problem with my Tamron)

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By: Ollie - 2nd June 2006 at 17:21

That’s great, thanks.

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By: G-ZAPW - 2nd June 2006 at 15:45

Location

Floor 13 of the car park now appears to be classed as a designated viewing area with the aviation hobby shop and a small cafe situated on the roof of the Terminal 1 short stay car park. It offers reasonable views of the international pier on Terminal 1 and Terminal 2. However other parts of the airport are restricted (especially Terminal 3 British Airways Domestic). Photography is OK but with two potential problems: There are fences around with a only a few holes at certain points from which to take photos and only aircraft using Terminal 2 and certain stands on Terminal 1 can be photographed without obstructions. With the car park charges it is also the most expensive spot at Manchester.

Hope that helps you Ollie 😎

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