I’ve just submitted my application to start training for my ATPL in July next year at OAT! So I’m pretty nervous, the school have had a very positive attitude towards me every time I’ve corresponded with them which is a good sign.
If my application is successful I will be called to stage 2 of the selection which is computer based hand eye coordination tests, multi-tasking, physics and maths.
If I’m successful in stage 2 I’ll move on to team building exercises and a formal interview and if successful in that stage 4 is a sim check in a full 737-400 sim!
Only 1 in 8 get through the selection process so it’s a very nerve-racking time…keep your fingers crossed for me guys.
I’ve applied for a deferred entry so that if I am unsuccessful now I can reapply nearer the time and still start the course at the same time.
Wish me luck 😀
I’ll keep you updated!
By: martin_EGTK - 23rd August 2003 at 14:54
Yeah Modular courses are made up aminly of people who already have PPL’s or are working towards them whereas Integrated are aimed at ab intio students.
By: wysiwyg - 23rd August 2003 at 14:49
Is modular more often done by people who already have PPL’s and a few hours? How far into it is Gaurav?
By: martin_EGTK - 23rd August 2003 at 14:39
Modular is basically a part time course, you can do a job on the side while training. The course is split up into section and you complete one section and can chose when to start the next. At Oxford this means that pilots don’t travel out to the United States for their VFR training.
Integrated courses are full time and conducted in 65 weeks as a continuous course. Basically this is more like university.
By: wysiwyg - 23rd August 2003 at 14:23
Interesting and very commendable on their part. I have no idea how many people they trained per year in the mid 90’s but I’d be interested to know how it compares to today.
You mention modular amd integrated training in some of your posts. These terms weren’t around in my day, could you explain the difference?
By: martin_EGTK - 23rd August 2003 at 10:56
wysiwyg, – When I went for a private tour of the school back in May I was told that out of the 336 people that had applied that year only 40 had got places. It isn’t that OAT is over capacity or has too much demand, if they wanted they could have taken on every single one of those students. However, OAT want to put all applicants through an airline style selection process so that they can see, who, when the time comes, will be good enough to get through the real airline selection process.
Basically they only take on pilots that they think will definatley make it into airline employment as soon as possible.
By: wysiwyg - 23rd August 2003 at 03:32
Martin – Through our previous conversations on the forum I think the whole process with the training schools must have changed immeasurably since I trained. Under the old CAA system there were effectively 3 ways you obtained a frozen ATPL. The first way was to enrol at one of the colleges for a course lasting about 14 months which would take you from complete ab initio to frozen ATPL with about 250 hours. This was the format followed by almost all of the airline sponsorships. The second way was for people with PPL’s and a small number of hours; once they had 200 hours they could go to one of the colleges and do the ground exams and a ‘brush up’ course whcih also left you with a frozen ATPL and about 250 hours. The third way (the way I did it) was called the ‘self improver route’ whereby if you had a PPL and at least 700 hours you just had to sit the ground exams, Commercial General Flight Test and the Instrument Rating ona light twin and you were given a frozen ATPL but you had the advantage of being seen by the airlines as much more experienced.
To go to a school such as OATS did not involve any selection process as you describe happening these days. You simply paid your dosh and waited for your start date but unless you were sponsored there was absolutely no guarantee of a job at the end. Is there so much demand for the places at OATS these days that you now have to interview and be selected in order to pay them for a course with no guaranteed job? If so, it’s a much tougher world than the one I trained in.
By: Hand87_5 - 22nd August 2003 at 18:11
The very best to you mate 🙂
By: MINIDOH - 22nd August 2003 at 16:17
good luck mate!
By: martin_EGTK - 21st August 2003 at 23:20
Once again guys…thanks so much, that’s why I’ve always loved about these forums, everyone is always so supportive! I’ll keep you all updated!
By: Woundsinger - 21st August 2003 at 21:59
Best of luck mate…
Keep us informed..
By: theplane - 21st August 2003 at 21:05
good luck martin….
and one of the basic things about the team-building exercise is this:
try not to murder anyone :p
By: A330Crazy - 21st August 2003 at 20:58
Martin, i wish you all the lcuk in the world, and hope that you do really well in succeeding.
Well done mate. 🙂
By: kurmitz28 - 21st August 2003 at 20:26
Good luck Martin… just keep thinking its worth all the hard work in the end
By: martin_EGTK - 21st August 2003 at 19:58
Cheers guys, I really appreciate all your support.
WYSIWYG, could you tell me what kind of thing they’ll be looking for at the interviews (If I get that far!) and the team building excercises? I have a basic idea, but on the whole it’s completely unknown to me.
By: Dutchy - 21st August 2003 at 19:27
Good luck hope you get trough
regards,
jw
By: wysiwyg - 21st August 2003 at 19:23
All the best Martin and if there’s anything we can do to help please ask.
By: KabirT - 21st August 2003 at 16:39
good luck Martin!:)
By: martin_EGTK - 21st August 2003 at 15:43
Cheers guys 🙂
By: LBARULES - 21st August 2003 at 15:42
Hope you get it mate. Good luck 🙂
By: tenthije - 21st August 2003 at 15:36
I wish you good luck with the selection process! Wish I could even get beyond the medical tests, but with my glasses… 🙁
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