August 10, 2003 at 1:42 am
The boeing 727 was a great Airplane with a great reputation
They have all but disappeared in this country apart from a few freighters
Are there any still in Airline use in Europe or any other countries apart from the USA
By: MSR777 - 13th August 2003 at 23:03
Don’t JAT still use and lease out srs 200s any more?
By: Bhoy - 13th August 2003 at 00:47
Originally posted by Bhoy
Air Algérie actually have two 727 flights a week scheduled to BSL (from Constantine), on Tuesdays and Sundays… will try and get a pic for you tomorrow…
d’oh… the camera’s battery gave up the ghost about the time the AH flight was taxiing out, an hour late… leaving me without a zoom for a close up.
By: Hand87_5 - 11th August 2003 at 18:12
Originally posted by Whiskey Delta
Stage 3 Hushkits provide a 71% reduction in noise on takeoff and 68% on landing compared to an engine with no hushkit.A State 3 re-engined aircraft shows a 91% reduction on landing and 96% on takeoff.
The article didn’t state what a “re-engined” 727 meant. Also these numbers are for a US Stage 3 727. From what I read the standards for the EU Stage 3 are more restrictive so those decreases in noise could be different.
I think that will be what kills the 727, DC-9 and 737-200’s, not the airframe giving out but polictical pressure for quieter aircraft that will force them to be parked.
Thanks mate 🙂
By: Whiskey Delta - 11th August 2003 at 17:23
Hushkit requirements based on noise limits that are dependant on an aircraft’s date of manufacture and it’s weight. I believe compliance for the Stage 3 requirement was at some point in the late 1990’s. Stage 4 requirments are under development now and will be made the standard in the next few years both in the US and EU from what I hear.
By: KabirT - 11th August 2003 at 16:52
Is it necessery that after a certain age some aircrafts get hushkits?
By: Whiskey Delta - 11th August 2003 at 16:45
Stage 3 Hushkits provide a 71% reduction in noise on takeoff and 68% on landing compared to an engine with no hushkit.
A State 3 re-engined aircraft shows a 91% reduction on landing and 96% on takeoff.
The article didn’t state what a “re-engined” 727 meant. Also these numbers are for a US Stage 3 727. From what I read the standards for the EU Stage 3 are more restrictive so those decreases in noise could be different.
I think that will be what kills the 727, DC-9 and 737-200’s, not the airframe giving out but polictical pressure for quieter aircraft that will force them to be parked.
By: Hand87_5 - 11th August 2003 at 15:06
BTW , who knows what the gain in term of noise of an hush kit?
Bhoy : My pleasure 🙂
By: Bhoy - 11th August 2003 at 15:03
I recognise that bush… nice airport once again, Hand 😉
By: Hand87_5 - 11th August 2003 at 15:01
Maybe one of those …..
By: Bhoy - 11th August 2003 at 14:57
Originally posted by Bhoy
Air Algerie have got at least two hushkitted 727-200’s that they still use on flights to Europe from Algeria.
Air Algérie actually have two 727 flights a week scheduled to BSL (from Constantine), on Tuesdays and Sundays… will try and get a pic for you tomorrow…
I used to wait on the bus to go home from work about 50 metres away from a 727 starting up on the Cargo Apron, when I was at Jet Aviation. Unfortunately, FedEx replaced their BSL-based 727 with an A310., which isn’t quite as exciting. That 72 was a noisy bugger. (wys might know the bus stop I mean… just along from Swiss (formerly Crossair) HQ at BSL, where he did his Saab training)
By: A330Crazy - 10th August 2003 at 16:43
A few more:
Aviogenex
Transasian Air Express
Northern Air Cargo (NAC)
Aerosur
Aero Continente
Planet Airways
Freedom Air
KCP Leasing & Services LLC
Emery Worldwide
Aerobenin
FLY
Dunview Ltd.
Aviacsa
Contract Air Cargo
Aeropostal
Santa Barbara Airlines
Capital Cargo International Airlines
Falcon Air Express
Southwest Jet Inc.
Jatayu Air
Transmile Air Services
Skyline Interantional
West African Airlines
Million Air Charter
Kulula.com
First Air
Trans Australian Air Pty Ltd
Air Macau
Inter Air
Nationwide Airlines
Pacific East Asia Crgo
Express.net
Senegal Gvmt.
Second Platinum Aircraft Acquisition INC.
And thats about it… good luck trying to find anymore. 🙂
Hope this helps.
By: KabirT - 10th August 2003 at 15:10
And some private B727s also.
By: A330Crazy - 10th August 2003 at 11:27
A list of 727 users from Around the world (US included)
Hewa Bora Airways — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?125742
Ryan International — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?125622
Twinjet Aircraft (private company) — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?125193
A.I.M.E.S flight operations (Private company) — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?125100
Total Cargo — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?125028
Air Contractors — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124941
Pan Am — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124933
Swiftair — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124649
TAME — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124323
Transmeridian Airlines — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124506
Lybian Arab Airlines — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124097
Kitty Hawk — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124026
Champion Air — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?124025
IRS International — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?123615
Mongolian Airlines — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?123614
VarigLog — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?123531
DHL — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?121902
Air Algerie — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?121853
Strong aircraft holdings (private company) — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?121781
Sonair — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?119531
All Canada Express — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?118747
VASP Express — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?118342
Kelowna Flightcraft — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?117774
Lloyd Aereo Boliviano — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?116775
Burkina Faso Govt. — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?116609
Bahrain Government — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?116496
UPS — http://www.airliners.net/open.file/361052/M
Amerijet International — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?115653
FedEx — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?115606
Nomads — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?114233
Allegro — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?112682
Cargojet Canada — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?111771
Al-Anwae (private company) — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?111765
Miami Air — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?111634
Falcon Air — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?111298
Purolator — http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?109348
By: Whiskey Delta - 10th August 2003 at 05:02
In the US they are making a reappearance with the startup airline Pan Am (a guy bought the name, logo and callsign). They are running refurbished 727’s with glass cockpits, hushkits and winglets. I never would have thought to see “new” 727’s coming back in service.
I know it doesn’t answer your question but I thought it was an interesting side note.
By: Bhoy - 10th August 2003 at 01:59
Air Algerie have got at least two hushkitted 727-200’s that they still use on flights to Europe from Algeria.