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Hi All,

 I just found this compiled list of Me 109’s projects either Airworthy / Static:- restored / Under restoration / Parts Of Aircraft etc. etc, if any of it will help you with the I.D. of particular Me 109E aircraft ?  I have checked and will admit that it is not up to date as at least one has flown if not more since the list was compiled.

The list of extent airframes/parts etc. etc. makes for some good reading and gives an insight into exactly what is out there regards this particular aircraft type and the preservation work carried out, 

The future looks quite good for possible airworthy examples that are on the go IMHO,  but as so many have pointed out it all comes down to the £/$’s at the end of the day so for me it’s fingers crossed.

https://axis.classicwings.com/Luftwaffe/messerschmitt/me109.htm

Of particular note (Ref this forum thread) are the airframes restored or passed on by Charleston Aviation Services and the current restoration at Meir Motors:- 

Bf 109E-7 / 854 / England / SD – Project owned by Charleston Aviation Services

Bf 109E-1 / Germany / – CR /6-88/C.5-88/C.4E-88 – Reported to be under restoration at Meier Motors in Germany. Recovered from Spain in 1983 previously on show at Tangmere Aviation Museum.

Bf 109E-3 / 1342 / England / CR / Yellow 8 – 6/JG51 – G-BYDS – N342FH – 1,5 wings, main spar and u/c legs were recovered from a beach in France in 1988. Extensively rebuilt. Under restoration by Charleston Aviation Services, for Flying Heritage Collection in Seattle, USA. Previously with Alpine Deer Group, Wanaka, NZ. 

Bf 109E-7 / 1983 / England / CR – Red ? 5/JG – Under restoration to flying condition by Charleston Aviation Services for German client.

Bf 109F-4 / 8347 / England / SD / Yellow 10 – 6/JG54 / Owned by CW Tomkins Ltd. Will be restored by Legendary Aircraft at Györ in Hungary. Ex Charleston Aviation, Essex.

Bf 109G-6 / 15458 / England / SD / III/JG 1 – Black 10 of 8/JG 1 / Owned by CW Tomkins Ltd. Will be restored by Legendary Aircraft at Györ in Hungary. Ex Charleston Aviation, Essex.

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Actually the above link while helpful this may be a more up to date version ?   https://www.classicwings.com/index.php

Geoff.

AG, as you say IF the WIX is accurate it does pose a question whether there is a second airframe in Mr. Lamplough’s ownership. What is the W/Nr?. The date that the Condor Legion commenced flying in Spain could maybe provide a starting point clue from the aspect of the original type of engine fitted.

Bearing in mind that Bf 109 airframes were not fitted with the DB 600 series engines. IF that airframe does exist (anywhere) was it fitted with a Junkers Jumo 210 engine and could there be differences in any airframe accesory fittments, for example,  that could provide any clues?  If yes, is it even  remotely possible the airframe might be a Bf 109 B/ C/ D rather than an E/1,E/2, or E/3. 

Mr. Google’s Wikipedia page showing Bf109 Surviving Airframes says that in Germany there is a :-

  “Bf 109B/V10a 1010 (D-IAKO), Oberschleißheim, Munich — only surviving Bf 109 prototype airframe known to exist”. 

I suggest that WIX could be getting off track here.  But has anyone got firm evidence one way or another?

Assuming the hsitory in the WIX thread is accurate, it sounds as though Mr Lamplough has more than one Bf109 on the go as I’m sure the one from Tablada was an earlier model
(brief visit to Uncle Google later)

Yes – an E-1: https://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/historically-significant-spanish…

I had a brief conversation with Robs Lamplough around 2007 when he hosted an Aircrew Association meeting after a Hungerford pub gathering that included Pete Brothers. When we later went up to his farm he later  took me into a ‘big barn’ to show me his Spitfire (Mark VIII ?) and I saw a Bf 109 on the floor and also asked him about it. If I recall correctly he said he found it when it was destined for an airfield dump for use as an accident and fire practice item by the team at Tablada in Spain.

I did also ask him if he had also loaned it previously in the early days of the Tangmere Military Aircraft Museum for display? Yes was the answer. He did have a P51 Mustang outside the barn that was flown later that afternoon with a lucky Aircrew Association member sitting behind him as he took of from a grass strip with crops sown either side!

That BF 109  has come a long way since then!  Let’s hope that one of our correspondents keeps us up to date on its further progress. And yes there was a fleet of Formula 1 historic cars in an adjoining building in addition to the Spitfire, and some helicopters that were ex Ministry disposals. Do I also recall a red Fokker Triplane in another corner?

Blimey , I knew he had a P51 but didn’t realise all the racing cars and other aircraft , such a shame for him not to fly it [the 109] 

Who was the owner? 

Robs Lamplough I believe.

Cheers

Paul

Who was the owner? £6 million and still not finished , blimey , looks in my pocket and  comes out with 25p 🙂 

“Unfortunately, 6*88’s current custodian, a British Warbird connoisseur, has not been able to renew his Aviation Medical Certificate and is now reluctantly offering 6*88 For Sale after 42 years of ownership.”

“However, the purchaser will have the option of completing the restoration to airworthy and flying standard with Meier Motors.”

..and ‘expensive’!

1938 Messerschmitt Bf109E-1 | Platinum Fighter Sales

Cheers

Paul

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