Spitfire IX TD314 Up for Sale

sorry wrong thread

Hi All,

  Looked over the Historic and Classic sales web page  https://historicandclassicaircraftsales.com/category/aircraft_sale  and there are still some good warbirds for sale along wit projects.  Of note are listed below so if have a a spare few hundred of thousand/million and don’t know what to do with it buy a ready built or put one back in the air where they belong. 😮 )

Yak 1 – With it’s original Klimov engine being restored ? but has an exchanged Klimov sounds lovely (See video  on the description page). 

Sopwith Dove G-EAGA / Mustang – (Private Sale) / Me109 G10/U4 / Sea Vixen XP294 (Ex Navy Wings – G-CVIX) / Spitfire IIa  P7913  (City Of B’ham) / DH Dove/Sea Devon XJ324-(Ex G-AMXZ ) / Stamp SV4 G-BPLM (Algerian built) / Spitfire (Private Sale) / DH Tiger Moth (VH-RVE)./ Fouga Magister CM170 – (YS 398 E) / BAC Strikemaster 88 x 2 ( VH-JFZ – Ex RNZAF 6363 & VH-ONP – Ex RNZAF 6371) / Hawker Hunter GA11 – XF301 (No Engine).

  All above aircraft have accompanying pictures and descriptions except for the Private sales..

https://www.facebook.com/people/Historic-and-Classic-Aircraft-Sales/100024790185221/

Geoff.

Prop Strike. Many straight wing, ex mil aircraft, have been modified to operate without ejection seats. The Hunter is not a straight wing aircraft. Much good reading to be had from the CAA on the subject; of ex mil aircraft; CAP 1640, Safety Notice SN-2018/004, and CAP 632. 
 

I have to agree with prop strike’s last paragraph. Yes the Hunter is indeed a lovely looking aircraft. However, for me if we’re talking about vintage/classic jets. Then in my opinion there’s nothing to beat the Gloster Meteor. A simply beautiful aircraft.

Old Towzer. 

Those are all considerations, yes. It is after all an ex military jet, not a microlight, so those concerns are ‘baked in’.  There is presently encouraging discussion between the relulator and the industry which will hopefully assist those hoping to operate historic aircraft equipped with ejector seats.  On a tangent, I am not sure they are even mandatory in all heritage jets.

As to the assertion that the Hunter is quite a simple aeroplane, I go only by the summary of Jonathon Whaley, who operated Miss Demeanour for 15 year or so, and had plenty of time to come to a balanced judgement.

All that aside, the Hunter is gorgeous, and compared to your £3.6 Million Spitfire,  and in my opinion,  it is way, way undervalued. 

Prop Strike. Hawker Hunter -an ejector seat and powered flying controls simple’? Add ‘bag tanks’, possible cartridge or Avpin starting soon rakes up the complexities and cost to operate. 

Not cheap in any sense, but the ‘value’ of classic/iconic aircraft remains modest compared to the classic car market.

For example, a ”Ferris Bueller’  1959 Ferrari 250 GT LWB California Spider sold for £16 million in 2018,  not a record for classic cars, but just an example of how high the market values them.  

I would say the most undervalued historic aircraft is the Hunter,  a classic and beautiful design from Sydney Camm, a ‘jet Spitfire’ with  quite simple systems, not hard to operate,  and a good, near-airworthy example might be acquired for only £100,000- £150,000

Yes, the fuel burn is quite high, but at maybe £3,000 per hour , for a operational budget of £100,000 you can do around 33 hours a year,  pretty average for these sorts of aeroplane. Add Insurance, hangarage etc. 

As an air display perfomer, I would assess it as far more interesting and desirable than a Spit, which is now commonplace.