February 3, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Hi all,
I’m trying to help a family friend fill in some blanks in her family history and am looking for information regarding a certain Alexander Edward JAMIESON.
Before marrying the father of my friend (J.D. PAYNE, M.C., ex 29 sqn. RFC and later Canadian Grenadier Guards) shortly after WWII, it appears her mother (Dora SWEET) was married before briefly and then widowed.
The name of her first husband is noted as Alexander Edward JAMIESON and personal correspondence suggests that he was a pilot.
Miss SWEET was a Canadian who spent most of the early 1940’s in the UK (first as a civilian and later as part of the Canadian armed forces)
We would like to know a little more about mr. JAMIESON and the circumstances of his death.
Does anyone have acces to lists of serving RAF and/or RCAF personnel during 1940-45?
I have had a look at the 1393 Officers list which we found online, but his name is not included.
If someone could point me in the right direction, I would be most grateful!
By: BDM - 25th March 2024 at 19:02
No apologies necessary, AA. Thank you so much for taking the time! Unless spelling mistakes were made while making the note in the passport regarding her being a widow, the late Mr Jamieson remains elusive. Thank you Mothminor for checking findmypast! I have a basic account there as well and after discovering Rosie’s message I hoped I would find a trace there of a marriage certificate, but no results so far. I’ll speak to the family friend in question and see if I can come up with some more search criteria. Rosie123, I hope you read this at some point and can provide the marriage details you found. Thanks in advance, Bram.
By: Mothminor - 25th March 2024 at 15:28
I have a basic Find My Past account but have drawn a total blank so far. Tried searching Mr Jamieson in military records and just as a general search also marriage records for UK and Canada but have failed to find anything. I hasten to add I’m no expert though!
I have found a reference to a Flt Lt A. Jamieson with 234 Sqn but he was involved in an accident (happily ok) in July 1946 so he’s not your man either!
By: avion ancien - 25th March 2024 at 11:27
Sorry, BDM. I’ve only just realised that the information provided by my acquaintance is for James Edward Jamieson, whereas your enquiry relates to Alexander Edward Jamieson. My acquaintance tells me that none of his sources contained any mention of a military pilot of this name. Furthermore, Sgt. J. E. Jamieson was an observer and not a pilot. Thus I fear that he is not the right man. My apologies.
By: trumper - 25th March 2024 at 09:55
R I P , No age at all
By: avion ancien - 24th March 2024 at 21:52
Using the foregoing information, I came across the following on the https://www.rcafassociation.ca/heritage/history/fallen-aviators/ website:
JAMIESON, JAMES EDWARD SGT(OB) R65791. From Canso, Nova Scotia. Killed in Action Jul 1/41 age 21. Hudson aircraft missing. Please see Lessner A. for casualty list and trip detail. Sergeant Observer Jamieson has no known grave, his name is inscribed on the Malta War Memorial, Malta.
By: avion ancien - 24th March 2024 at 21:44
My genealogical wizard acquaintance has come up with some information, from a Canadian service record, but he’s not sure if it’s the same man as you mention, BDM, and, perhaps more importantly, there’s no reference to this man having a wife.
James Edward Jamieson
Born 17.8.1913 Canso, Nova Scotia.
Residence Toronto
Died 1.7.1941
Parents Edward Roy & Helen Nellie
He Attested 6.6.1940 RCAF
He arrived UK 2.3.1941
1.7.1941. Missing Flying Accident—Leicester England. His sister, Jean, applied for payment of war service gratuity.
Perhaps you’ll let me know, after you’ve spoken with your friend, whether any of these facts fit.
By: BDM - 22nd March 2024 at 15:29
You are too kind, AA. Much appreciated!
By: avion ancien - 22nd March 2024 at 15:06
I will make a few enquiries, of an acquaintance who is something of a genealogical wizard, and let you know if he can come up with anything useful.
By: BDM - 22nd March 2024 at 10:33
Hi avion ancien,
I think the mention of him being a WingCo is due to a mix-up with Patrick Jameson, nicknamed ‘Jamie’. Research on the Kew website turned up a mention of a Wing Commander Jamieson found in a combat report for 133 squadron. This is obviously a misspelling as P. Jameson led the wing that day. We found three A. Jamieson in the general list later during the war, but have no way to ascertain which one it might be. I hope Rosie might help us a step further with details from the marriage certificate!
By: avion ancien - 22nd March 2024 at 09:57
The puzzling thing is that if Alexander Edward Jamieson was a Wing Commander, during WW2, the internet does not appear to have any mention of him or his death – not even the RAF Commands website, that usually proves to be a fairly comprehensive source of such information.
By: BDM - 21st March 2024 at 14:30
Dear Rosie,
Thans so much for your message. I have only just discovered it. After the general exodus on this forum around that time I hadn’t really been keeping up to date. I hope you get this message as we would love to get our hands on some more information. My friend has been poorly of late and it would be nice to be able to help her finally close this chapter. Thanks in advance, Bram.
By: Rosie123 - 1st December 2020 at 08:52
Hi, yes I have a copy of the marriage entry (Jamieson + Sweet) and also a few more details of Mr Jamieson’s flight career (Wing Commander). Not sure yet exactly how he died but I’m chasing this up for you. Please write back to me here if you’re interested. Rosie