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Salvaged prop – ID please

This was reportedly fished up off Portsmouth recently. Hopefully there is enough engineering detail visible for the experts to ID it pretty quickly. Don’t think it’s German (certainly not VDM anyway) and it looks British with that bob weight in shot. Beyond that I’m lost!

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By: anneorac - 31st May 2018 at 23:15

Chaps, you are quite correct.

The missing cover and one barnacle incrusted feature led me to see something that isn’t actually there.

So as you were saying, most likely a DeHavilland Hydromatic prop attached to a Hercules reduction gear.

Slightly shame faced Anne.

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By: H.M.S Vulture - 31st May 2018 at 22:41

100% British. Bristol engine & (DH?) Hydromatic propeller!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 31st May 2018 at 22:40

Yes, but not a Hydromatic prop.

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By: anneorac - 31st May 2018 at 22:30

Ignore this post, I was talking c**p!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 31st May 2018 at 22:26

It appears to be a Bristol Engine reduction gear, and the LH rotation supports that, but the blades are similar to the pattern found on the B-17, B-24 and C-47.

With a prop that size it must be from a Hercules engine and that blade size/combination it could be Stirling or Halifax. Hercules Sunderlands and Beaufighters had much slender bladed (termed needle) props. Lanc II’s had the Rotol prop.

And, yes, the prop is a Hydromatic. There is no “bobweight” – the confusion, I think, coming from the projecting hub casing housing the joining bolt(s).

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By: Creaking Door - 31st May 2018 at 22:15

I disagree…..not with that reduction gear!

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By: anneorac - 31st May 2018 at 22:12

Ignore this post, I was talking c**p!

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By: Creaking Door - 31st May 2018 at 22:03

I think you may be right. I hadn’t really looked at the hub itself; I’d just accepted that it had counterweights.

Looking at it again it definitely seems to have the Hamilton-Standard ‘Hydromatic’ type of pitch control.

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By: H.M.S Vulture - 31st May 2018 at 21:52

Bristol Hercules (Halifax,Stirling or Beufighter).

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By: Creaking Door - 31st May 2018 at 21:05

Looks like a 0.5:1 reduction ratio (the two larger gears being the same size and having the same number of teeth).

Not that that narrows it down very much; for the Pegasus engine that ratio was used on Sunderland, Wellington and Hampden (and the Mercury engine uses a virtually identical reduction gear with the same reduction ratio).

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By: Creaking Door - 31st May 2018 at 20:25

Definitely Bristol (Farman) reduction gear.

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By: Nachtjagd - 31st May 2018 at 16:30

Latest theory – Mk 1 Sunderland as fitted with Bristol Pegasus. The length of the prop boss plus what I think looks like a bob weight lead me in that direction. Any takers?

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By: Trolly Aux - 31st May 2018 at 15:00

CeBro the B17 and B25 reduction gear are different just reminded me more of a 24 than a 17 prop reduction gear

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By: CeBro - 31st May 2018 at 14:47

Looks like the dome has corroded away. Trolly Aux, doesn’t the P&W R-1830 have a different reduction gearing?

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By: Trolly Aux - 31st May 2018 at 14:17

Possibly a B24 prop

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By: Nachtjagd - 31st May 2018 at 14:13

Having looked at pictures of Wright Cyclones I’m also now thinking B17 but the prop boss seems a little too short on the salvaged example. An early model perhaps?

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By: grahame knott - 31st May 2018 at 13:55

This came ashore a week or so back at Camber jetty and from the picture I was sent I thought B17

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By: CeBro - 31st May 2018 at 13:51

My guess is B-17. My knowledge of P&W or Wright reduction gearing is a bit rusty.

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