Flight 1 August 1946

Very publicly spirited of the ebay dealer! 🙂

I am grateful, aeronut 2008, for the attempt that you made. But I’ve certainly learnt a lesson from this exercise – which is not to assume that what is in bound copies of magazines is all that was there when the component issues came off the press.

which suggests that quite a number of advertising pages were not scanned before the remainder were uploaded online.

Earlier this week in an attempt to assist I went to the appropriate bound volume of Flight only to find that none of the classified adds were included. So I presume it was a bound volume that was used for the online versions rather than loose magazines, after all it seems more logical for a publishing house to store a bound volume rather than loose editions.

If, Don, it helps – rather than rubbing salt into the wound – the vendor tells me he found it on page 33 of the issue of 1 August 1946. However I assume that to be page 33 of the advertising pages, rather than page 33 of the text pages, as it appears that, curiously, the text and the advertising pages are discretely numbered. In the online copy of this issue the last advertising page featured is page 25, which suggests that quite a number of advertising pages were not scanned before the remainder were uploaded online.

Whilst I’m very grateful to you, Don, I needn’t trouble you to search further the resources of the NLA as I now have a copy of the advertisement. One of the eBay vendors of the 1 August 1946 issue of Flight went through the magazine again and found the advertisement amongst the ‘small ads’ and sent me a copy of it. I have thanked him for his kindness and generosity. But may I extend that thanks to those who have contributed to this thread and, in particular, those who pointed me in the right direction to find a copy of the advertisement.

Those with a long memory might remember an earlier thread (https://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?92083-De-Schelde-Scheldemusch&highlight=scheldemusch) which I initiated concerning the fate of Scheldesmusch PH-AMG (i.e. the one which was being advertised in Flight in 1946). It is the one which is reputed to have survived in the midlands until about 1960, when it was sold to a scrap dealer by Squadron Leader D.Langford after suffering an accident during taxiing trials. I never did ascertain the identity of the scrap dealer to whom it was sold or anything substantial of its history between 1946 and 1960.

Well, I’m stumped! One of the kind sellers of the 1 August 1946 issue of Flight tells me that there are no clasified advertisements on its back inside cover and he cannot find any advertisement therein advertising the Scheldemusch for sale. Thus I have to assume that the letter in the 31 December 1977 issue of Flight quoted an incorrect date for the issue which contained the advertisement. I have again been through the online issue of 1 August 1946 which, whilst it contains many full page advertisements, includes no classified advertisements whatsoever and entering Scheldemusch into the Flight Archive search engine gives no post-war results. If most bound copies in libraries are likely to have had the advertising pages removed, to all intents and purposes it would be impossible to undertake a manual search of the classified advertising sections of the post-war issues of Flight – and it might prove to be a wild goose chase in any event. The only other thought I have is to approach the successor company to Fokker-VFW in the hope that the author of the letter to Flight, H.Schwing, might still be alive and able to shed some light on the matter. But as we are more than forty years on, I wouldn’t hold high hopes. But if anyone else can think of anything else ….. !

Thank you, both. I’ll contact the seller and see if the advertisement is within the copy he’s selling and, if so, whether he’d sell me a scan of that.

p.s. I’ve noted that there are two copies of this issue currently on sale on eBay and so I’ve asked both sellers the same question!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FLIGHT-Aircraft-Engineer-August-1st-1946-A-blown-up-Wimpy-Jet-Fighters/201440687775?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49130%26meid%3Db3f507798969449e8810309d12b57c36%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D352307183169%26itm%3D201440687775&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

avion ancien…If you don’t think it’s worth paying the extra postage to France, perhaps enquire if the ebay seller would scan the ad for you in exchange for an agreed fee (£5?) which he could charge you by Paypal as a ‘Buy it Now’ item (assuming you’re signed up to Ebay)

Thank you, Don. Your description of a balmy autumn day in South-Eastern Australia makes me rather envious as I gaze out upon the rain and wind that passes for early spring in Western France!

Thank you, Laurence. It was that letter in Flight of 31 December 1977 that set me off in search of the original advertisement. And thank you also, Don, for your helpful input. It may be, in consequence, that all extant bound copies of the issue will be sans couverture (particularly as that is the case with even the Flight Archive copy) – although one has to assume that at least one copy with its outer cover in place was in existence in 1977.

M. Ancien: Re the ad for the Scheldemusch you are looking for, I found this quote on Wikipedia:

The only Scheldemusch to survive the war was PH-AMG, which had gone to England as a replacement demonstrator.[4] It was briefly considered by the RAF, appearing with both roundels and its Dutch civil registration.[7] At the end of the war it was advertised for sale at £235[5] and there were reports that it survived until 1960, but there is no evidence that it flew in that time.

Ref [5] is Flight 31.12.1977

Mike………..

Have checked Air Britain’s stockpile of mags but the one you want/need is not there. (Whoops, should have read previous msg !!!)

You could try www.aerosociety.com/nal …..

Planemike

The one concerning the Scheldemusch for sale, Laurence. I’ll try FAST and see if it can help. In the meantime, thank you all.

That issue is on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Flight-and-Aircraft-Engineer-Magazine-No-1962-August-1st-1946/352307183169?hash=item520724fe41:g:pEEAAOSwjwtZtUot , Air Britain don’t have that one as a loose copy… other routes might be to get a photocopy from the Library at Farnborough ?

Which ad or ads are you looking for?

Sadly not, although I wish I could help.

No-one (else)?

Thank you, Laurence. I trust that matters are going well for you. I’m grateful to you for telling me what you haven’t got. It’s reduced my list of possible sources by one! 🙂

I still have a lot of old Flights, but not 1946. To reduce the volume I cut out all the ads, so that makes two reasons they are of no use to you!