October 27, 2017 at 3:29 pm
Hi All. Interested in getting this book but trying to see how it differs from the David Griffin book on the Hunter. Does anyone know where I can preview the Table of Contents and perhaps a few random random pages of text from the McLelland Hawker Hunter book? My usually reliable sources of Google-books and Amazon have been unable to provide any insight into this tome.
…geoff
By: bearoutwest - 1st November 2017 at 13:53
Hello Lothar.
Thanks for the reply. No, not a matter of dismissing it, rather a matter of economics – both of finance and bookshelf space. I have over the years acquired a number of good books on the Hunter, and most recently the David Griffin volume. Had the opportunity of adding the McLelland book but it doesn’t seem to add significantly to the data I have already in terms of development history, operational history, pilot recollections, etc. So for me – at this point in time – I am not going to purchase the McLelland book. For someone who doesn’t already have a number of other Hunter books, the McLelland volume sounds like a good start point. It sounds like it has more development history than the Griffin volume, and similar coverage in ops history and photos and technical data/drawings. I actually don’t mind the pilot notes, etc – what Bruce calls padding. It would appear neither volume has a great deal of combat operations history (correct me if I’m wrong) – but then, for me this is not a drama, as I have several other books on Hunter combat in Aden, Middle East and India.
Perhaps you and/or “cabbage” can give a better idea of the combat ops coverage in the McLelland book?
Regards, …geoff
By: lothar - 31st October 2017 at 16:23
I too am an owner of this book, indeed I contributed to it so am possibly a little biased. No, I do not get a share of the royalties!
It is a comprehensive account of the Hunter’s life in all its guises with some good photos and some personal stories so I would not dismiss it too quickly. As above, do contact me if you would like to know more.
By: cabbage - 29th October 2017 at 08:32
Glad to be of some help Geoff. If you want any more information please feel free to ask.
By: bearoutwest - 29th October 2017 at 08:13
Thanks Cabbage. You are a prince among leafy vegies. :eagerness:
It sounds very similar to the David Griffin Hunter book, though perhaps with more on the development and service history. The Griffin book only devoted about 20 pages to that, and the rest on individual aircraft history, photos, drawings, etc. Might pass on it for the moment.
Thanks again,
…geoff
By: cabbage - 28th October 2017 at 19:32
I do have a copy of this book.
The table of contents is as follows.
Abbreviations
Introduction
Chapter 1: Genesis of the P.1067
Chapter 2; Teething troubles
Chapter 3; Into service: Marks 1 to 5
Chapter 4: Mark 6: the ‘definitive’ Hunter
Chapter 5: From the Central Flying School to Aden
Chapter 6: Unscheduled exits
Chapter 7: A ‘third life’
Chapter 8: Civilian operators
Chapter 9: Fond memories
Chapter 10: Overseas buyers
Appendix 1: Export sales by country
Appendix 2: Aircraft serial numbers
Appendix 3: Description of the airframe by Hawker Aircraft
Appendix 4: Comparative data summary of nine sample RAF training aircraft
Appendix 5: Hunter weaponry
Appendix 6: Plan drawings
Appendix 7: Detail photographs
Appendix 8: Pilot’s notes
Appendix 9: Refrences
Index
I’ve left out the page numbers deliberately, but can detail them if required.
Hope this is of some use to you.
By: bearoutwest - 27th October 2017 at 16:46
Thanks Bruce. Yes, I had read those and found them a little confusing. Perhaps one reviewer was trying to be subtle.
By: Bruce - 27th October 2017 at 16:29
Its a rather disappointing tome to be honest – with lots of filler from pilot manuals and so on. Read some of the reviews on Amazon.