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Civil used Thomas-Morse S-4 and modifications

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After the WWI the army sold about 60 T-M S-4 for civil use.
Some were re-engined with Curtiss OX-5 engines and a few with others.
Other modifications were made a second/third seat also changes to the wings.
Smaller wings, parasol version etc.
This were done by Yackey, Dycer (?), Ryan (at least one for Mahoney), Brown (parasol) and others.
Who can help me with information (dimensions, colors etc.), pictures etc.?
Quality is not important, but the details.
Thanks
Jan

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By: Jan den Das - 23rd May 2017 at 11:42

Duggy thanks, but this is not what I am looking.
I am looking for the civil T-M S-4 and the S-4 with new wings/engines/etc.

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By: Duggy - 22nd May 2017 at 14:44

LINK– https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=49487266%40N07&view_all=1&text=Thomas%20Morse%20s%204
This is the best I know.
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By: J Boyle - 22nd May 2017 at 14:22

You’re correct, I did mix the types…very silly of me!
Just to clarify, my friend had the WWI model with rotary.

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By: Jan den Das - 22nd May 2017 at 10:50

Thanks for the information, but you mix two types of aeroplane.
The one I mantion is the biplane with the rotary engine, building started before the end of WWI.
The one you mention, is the Thomas-Morse MB-3 with the Hispano engine.
This was build by Boeing as the MB-3A, yes some of these aeroplanes were used in the movie Wings.

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By: J Boyle - 22nd May 2017 at 08:20

A late friend had one and flew it in the 60s-80s. By the time I met him, it was a running static. As far as I know it was stock.

In the Book, Boeing Aircraft since 1916 by Peter M. Bowers there is a photo of an overturned one in German markings from the film Wings. It was said they were in many inter-war films about WWI and the Army gave film makers condemned aircraft for static crash wreckage scenes.
Aside from the fact the last batch build by Boeing had revised tail surfaces, I haven’t found out anything about post-service mods.

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