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Not all Meteors were jets!

http://aviastar.org/air/england/gloster_trent-meteor.php

EE 227, initially jet powered was converted by replacing the jets with two RR Trents transforming the Meteor to turboprop power. Maybe everybody knows this, but it came as ‘new history’ to me from Eric Brown’s book, ‘Wings on my sleeve’.

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By: TonyT - 24th May 2017 at 19:35

As a test airframe the Meteor was incredibly versatile;-

And still is, hence why Martin Baker still use it, it has qualities other aircraft lack, tandem seating, fast enough flight profile and most importantly mid wing mounted engines that are clear of gas ingestion when seats are tested. There simply isn’t anything else out there that can replace it.

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By: Robbiesmurf - 24th May 2017 at 19:28

I cannot find any photos anymore. I can tell you it landed with the u/c up because I saw it happen. I was outside walking the wings of a Lightning just out of storage and saw it skidding down the runway. The pilot departed in a great hurry, he also left the Station that way..
It was lifted and the u/c was dropped then towed into our hangar (ASF) where it was repaired. The ventral and a wing tip had the most damage. XR752 was the first production F6 built, first as the interim (F3a) then later fully modded to F6.

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By: Deskpilot - 24th May 2017 at 02:42

And yet it happened.
XR752.

I’ll take your word for it. Any more info available? Photos of crash?

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By: Danwheeler65 - 23rd May 2017 at 18:36

In his book Flying To The Limit, chapter 5, Roland Beamont describes his experience of flying EE 227 at Moreton Valence on 14 May 1946. His description of the flight are underwhelming and the chapter finishes thus:-
“I did not have to fly it again and felt no disappointment at all.”

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By: Robbiesmurf - 23rd May 2017 at 12:39

And yet it happened.
XR752.

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By: Deskpilot - 23rd May 2017 at 03:32

LIGHTNING!! T’was not allowed due the wings being so far swept back, once it fell onto a wing tip, it would cartwheel. Landing with a nose wheel stuck up was OK.

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By: Robbiesmurf - 22nd May 2017 at 18:53

I’ve seen a couple of types land with no u/c. Lightning, Jaguar..

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By: Newforest - 22nd May 2017 at 15:02

I think you are confusing this thread with another thread ‘And now for something completely different!’ :dev2:

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By: Duggy - 22nd May 2017 at 14:32

And of course the version that could land on grass with no wheels.:stupid:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-1/Meteor%20belly-landing-no-info.jpg
And another with piston engines.:eagerness:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-1/Saunders-Roe%20A.22%20Meteor.jpg

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By: John Aeroclub - 22nd May 2017 at 11:41

Not all Meteors were jet powered, How about the Blackburn Seagrave Meteor or the Aviamilano (Lombardi) Meteor, I think there was a Davis Meteor as well..

I remember one school holiday sitting on the pit tips at Hucknall watching the Soar experimental FR.9 (now at Newark) hoiking down the runway very low and then suddenly getting a kick skywards as the Soar ‘battery’ in the centre fuselage was brought into play.

John

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By: longshot - 22nd May 2017 at 10:57

Experiments in the other direction hanging jet engines on the Viking and Viscount were interesting..the Tay-Viscount reportedly did a blisteringly fast display at Farnborough

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By: Meddle - 22nd May 2017 at 09:12

one with four engines (WA982)…

I’ve read elsewhere that WA982 was only kitted out with a single RR Soar engine, and that a dummy was used on the other wing. Was this later changed? The same Meteor was converted into a drone and now lives at the bottom of Cardigan Bay.

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By: Deskpilot - 22nd May 2017 at 02:25

Re http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288111/Returning-skies-oldest-jet-fighter-world-British-built-Meteor-fly-70-years-maiden-flight.html
I once lived at RAF Driffield but have never heard of RAF Druffield as mentioned in this report.

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By: J Boyle - 22nd May 2017 at 01:10

Does the CAA consider all turbine-time equal? I believe the FAA does.
For example, a person with turboprop-turbine time would be looked at favorably by an airline for a “pure jet” job.

If so, the discrimination between the two becomes even more murky.

Nonetheless, I assumed most UK anoraks knew about the Trent Metors. 🙂
If not, might I suggest a sequel…”Not all Lancasters are pistons” featuring the test bed aircraft (NG465, TW911, FM205 and ’09, among others) or the turbine C-47s tested by BOAC.

There there is the B-47D Stratojet with turboprop replacing both in board jet pairs or the XF-84H with the a supersonic propeller which provoked nausea to those several hundred feet away due to causing inner ear tremors.

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By: Piston - 21st May 2017 at 23:00

Title is correct…jet is short for turbojet ( an engine type that gets its motive power from the jet of material pushed backwards)….a turboprop only gets the minority of its power from the jet effect, most from the propeller….they are both turbine powered though.

That’s a longshot… 😉

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By: Robbiesmurf - 21st May 2017 at 19:44

A total of 3 Meteors were used by RR for reheat development starting in 1947 to about 1953

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By: longshot - 21st May 2017 at 19:10

Title is correct…jet here short for turbojet ( motive power from the jet of material pushed backwards)…. turboprop gets most power from the propeller a lesser amount from jet thrust…. both turbine powered though. (Edited)

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By: Newforest - 21st May 2017 at 17:55

I knew I would be picked up on that! 😀

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By: Piston - 21st May 2017 at 17:11

Just to add, the turboprop is indeed a jet, maybe an amendment of the thread title is in order.

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