Lysanders in the film Allied

I’ll pass that suggestion on, scotavia – it would certainly suit the ‘operational’ rather than a ‘straight out of the paint shop’ look it’s been given.

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It’s been beautifully weathered with the ladder showing signs of much use and even grass and mud stains along the rear fuselage.

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May I suggest a drip tray under the engine area with a small amount of oil within….

Whilst the loan of the RAF Museum Meteor was a good idea maybe time for a change ?

Yes and the museum’s management felt the same way. The changes began a few week’s ago when the Hurricane FSM was moved across the aisle in the Merston Hall to be next to the Spitfire prototype, replacing the SE5a replica cockpit and the Canberra B2 cockpit. The SE5a has been moved near to the Swift, co-locating it with the Hunter and Provost cockpits – a much more sensible arrangement. The Canberra cockpit has been temporarily re-located to the conservation hanger but will return to the main museum when all the other moves have been completed.

The Meteor (EE549) will be back at the museum by mid-July where it will be re-assembled by the same Cosford team who took it apart last week. The original plan was for it to return to the position opposite WB188 where it has lived for many years but, having seen the quite stunning visual impact that the Lysander has in that position when entering the Merston Hall, EE549 will now be displayed in the position previously occupied by the Hurricane FSM with the Lysander staying where it now is.

Pete

Whilst the loan of the RAF Museum Meteor was a good idea maybe time for a change ?
The Meteor, by coincidence, has gone to Horseguards Parade in London for temporary display in the RAF 100 show.
The Lysander makes an excellent and different exhibit at Tangmere, even without the wings attached it has a great story to tell.
If the Meteor is returned to RAF museum let us hope if finds a suitable display, or another period of loan ? p.s. and I do not mean Pima !!!!
To many of the RAF Museum collection are now in storage.

Great news!

The Meteor has gone on its holidays to Horseguards Parade in London for the RAF100 event – where it will be joined by the rest of the RAF! Allegedly it will be back, although in how many pieces is debatable.

Great addition to the museum, and very appropriate given the use of Tangmere, Appledrum etc for SOE work.

Haven’t been to Tangmere for a couple of years and I’m trying to work out where the Lysander has been slotted in. Seems the speed record Meteor has been moved to make way for it?

As a catch up – the Moth belonged to Cliff Lovell during the making of the film and it was implied that the film company wished to buy it to use for a crash scene.7

Your Questions Answered

I can now answer some of the questions/comments from this old thread.

So the question is who owns the FSM…?

It’s now owned by the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum Trust.

Let’s hope it finds it’s way into a museum

It has – it’s now at its new permanent home at Tangmere.

And undercover as well.

It is – it will be on display in the museum’s Merston Hall.

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Re-assembly should be complete by Tuesday 10 July. It will then be re-marked as V9822 MA-E, the aircraft in which Jimmy McCairns flew most of his 25 successful pick-up operations from RAF Tangmere in 1943.

Photos of its arrival here: http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/news/lysander-replica-aircraft-arrives

and for those with Facebook access, here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TMAMAdmin/ Click on Discussion on the left hand side and scroll down.

Pete

Interesting twist on Amy Johnson’s fate. Shot down by our AA in Sussex? New one on me.

I recall a newspaper article at the time quoting Jeff Hawke (was he the aerial coordinator for the movie?) as saying that they had to buy the Moth because no one would lend or rent them one. I would say that the usual journalistic caveats apply.

Steve

Down the road I bet they wish they had. Made quite an impact on its value!

https://jerrygarrett.wordpress.com/2012/12/15/famed-out-of-africa-biplane-headed-to-auction/

I recall reading at the time the Moth was bought by the studio and was going to be destroyed.
Not sure if I ever believed that, no need to destroy an antique just to have wreckage to show.

Anyone know fore sure what the story was?

I recall a newspaper article at the time quoting Jeff Hawke (was he the aerial coordinator for the movie?) as saying that they had to buy the Moth because no one would lend or rent them one. I would say that the usual journalistic caveats apply.

Steve

I recall the film Out of Africa, the owner of the Moth was very annoyed when he saw the film that his aircraft had been repainted.

I recall reading at the time the Moth was bought by the studio and was going to be destroyed.
Not sure if I ever believed that, no need to destroy an antique just to have wreckage to show.

Anyone know fore sure what the story was?

As I started the post can I just say that the film was not trailed as an accurate documentary of the life of a second world war Lysander pilot. It is basically a love story, and that is why my partner and I went to see it. I was surprised to see how much, basically accurate and entertaining aviation content there was.

I certainly do not recall the film having brown / green camo, maybe a trick of the studio lights ? As for the fin flash again sure the film and CGI were correct and not as in the studio photo.

Not sure why, but know that certain aspects of the colour scheme were changed by the film company prior to the aircraft leaving Cornwall.

I noticed that, the first photo on this thread showed it in Grey/Green Camo and the other has it in Dark Earth/Green, just a pity they left the undersides black
To me it just seems to be a shame that after all the effort they put in to build something that looks like a Lysander close up they spoil it with something as obvious as the paint.
Don’t get me wrong, if I could afford it I’d buy this replica as I think its an impressive job and I own a paintbrush.

Who thought the fin flash was positioned there?

Not sure why, but know that certain aspects of the colour scheme were changed by the film company prior to the aircraft leaving Cornwall.

I will try and find out why the flash was in this position and let you know if someone can produce the answer.

Now starting to worry a little as this is the reason I am employed here, to make sure all goes out correct. Might have to just shrug my shoulders when another film is released and say ‘was nothing to do with us!’.

Best wishes,

Martin
GateguardsUK

Who thought the fin flash was positioned there?

Don’t even get started on the technical in inaccuracies in the movie otherwise this thread will never end!!!!

Steve

Who thought the fin flash was positioned there?

And pretty badly knocked about (allegedly).

I recall the film Out of Africa, the owner of the Moth was very annoyed when he saw the film that his aircraft had been repainted.