September 2, 2015 at 7:21 pm
I was sent a photo a while ago of an officer who was killed in a crash, it shows him standing on a PRU Spitfire and wearing a white Prestige flight suit. There is a badge of a unit stitched onto the left hand pocket, I have found other examples of those suits being modified with insignia via google but have not found which unit the insignia belongs to, it is similar to the No.615 RAuxAF Sqn badge but doesn’t look to be the same and I don’t think this officer was ever with that Squadron.
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By: Arabella-Cox - 4th September 2015 at 18:57
The 6 pointed star denoted an Army Co-Op Squadron, Fighter Sqns had the Arrow head and Bomber Sqns has a spherical bomb shape. The device in the centre will be the same as the Sqn coat of arms. Now we just need a list of Sqns that were Army Co-Op in the thirties and a book of RAF heraldry.
By: Maple 01 - 4th September 2015 at 16:09
I think the star shape was used much like the fighter arrow head on pre-war aircraft (Spitfire 1 at Hendon for example)
I’ll attach a photo when I get a chance
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By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd September 2015 at 21:23
That might be a pair of (winged?) dividers within the star,possibly denoting Nav or instructor Nav? Didn’t the Guild of Air Pilots And Navigators have a similar logo?
Also, if that is text below the star it seems to start with a capital C – maybe for Canada?
Anon.
By: Alan Clark - 3rd September 2015 at 18:29
I have considered it being something personal rather than a unit, no idea what it says below, the photo is from a newspaper obituary so no chance of a better copy.
By: Mothminor - 3rd September 2015 at 18:26
I swear I haven’t been drinking but ….the thing in the middle looks like a knight holding a shield and flag/weapon to me!
Could it be something personal to the pilot rather than a unit badge?
Any idea what it says underneath the badge?
By: Alan Clark - 3rd September 2015 at 17:05
Thanks Ross for confirming that he was with the PRU at St Eval when he received his DFC.
A few units did use the Star of David, 1 ANS, 615 Sqn and I seem to remember seeing one more yesterday but the inner design was different in every case.
By: Alan Clark - 3rd September 2015 at 16:39
Thanks Ross for confirming that he was with the PRU at St Eval when he received his DFC.
A few units did use the Star of David, 1 ANS, 615 Sqn and I seem to remember seeing one more yesterday but the inner design was different in every case.
By: l.garey - 3rd September 2015 at 08:12
It looks like a Star of David. Did any units use that?
By: Moggy C - 3rd September 2015 at 08:10
… the two diagonal lines heading towards the bottom of the star don’t look like they belong with the moth
I’m reading those as an ‘A’
Moggy
By: Ross_McNeill - 3rd September 2015 at 07:18
Hi Alan,
F1180 has him listed as pilot on OADF Hudson.
Usually RAF Records did not post to OADU/OADF only attached so No.31 ANS would have been the last paper posting assigned by the Canadian PRC on his arrival.
Carter DFC and how it was Won lists the unit on DFC award as PRU St Eval.
He has a few mentions in Ocean Bridge by Christie but all relating to the final flight rather than saying if he was in Canada and volunteered to fly an aircraft back, had been brought over specifically by the return ferry service or had arrived by ship.
Ross
By: Alan Clark - 3rd September 2015 at 00:34
It does look a bit like that Mike, though the two diagonal lines heading towards the bottom of the star don’t look like they belong with the moth. If it is I’d have never gone for DH.
A bit of history on the officer in the photo, he was a Canadian citizen who joined the RAF in 1936, already holding a Canadian PPL (or equivalent at the time), and for at least the early part of 1941 was at St Eval. He was killed in a crash in July 1941 but the CWGC graves registration record has his unit at the time of his death as No.31 ANS, which was in Canada and he is not referred to at all in their ORB (I looked last week). I think there may have been some paper exercise as he’d gone on leave to Canada shortly before his death and was then ferrying an aircraft back. He was awarded the DFC in April 1941 but not citation is given in the LG and no unit either but this photo has me thinking as he is buried at St Eval and had been stationed there he was possibly with No.2 PRU but that logo is nothing like the badge for that unit.
By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd September 2015 at 21:22
Looks like the de-H Moth Club logo, Alan.
Anon.