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British bomber relics

hello everybody, first of all i want to say, that my last english-lesson at school is 30 years ago, so i hope you understand what i mean. the following relics were found in a forest in germany/rheinland-pfalz. i sent the picture of the dial to a friendly person at smith&sons and he told me, the instrument was made in the 1936 and the scale only going to 250 lb/sq suggests a slower aircraft, almost certainly a bomber. this means the propability is an

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley

or a

vickers Wellington

or a

Handly Page Hampden

on one of the fotos you can see a fb-number which means, as i read in this forum “bristol”

Perhaps you can help me to find out, to wich aircraft the parts belong.

p.s.: i found some cardrige cases of .303 british

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By: TonyT - 28th June 2015 at 02:32

🙂 ya, Danke

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By: powerandpassion - 27th June 2015 at 13:57

Thank you Erna, I enjoy watching this develop, please keep contributing.

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By: erna - 26th June 2015 at 15:09

dear members, meanwhile i am able to give further information about the crash. hampden project sent me a mail:

“…Hampden P1218 of 408 Squadron which went missing on the 22/23 October 1941, it’s mission was to Mannheim, which would mean that it would have to fly over, or very near to your crash site.
The crew were.
Flight Sergeant F A Titcomb Killed
Sergeant R M Gifford ( Royal Canadian Air Force) P.O.W.
Sergeant F A G Ragg Killed
Flight Sergeant R R Walker Killed

Those that were killed are buried in Durnbach War Cemetery.””

i think, thats our lost aircraft. if i get any other news, i will let you know. thank you so far, regards, erna!

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By: erna - 20th June 2015 at 17:29

found an other mark: C&B or G&B. do you know that?

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By: erna - 20th June 2015 at 15:51

thank you. in germany there are very strict laws in terms of metal search. so i can not name publicly the location yet. when the puzzle is solved, i will let you know. in germany the diggers are jealous of british laws…

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By: Whitley_Project - 20th June 2015 at 15:27

I think Erna can do what ever she likes!

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By: erna - 20th June 2015 at 14:12

hampden project got mail. i dont answer the question of the locality YET. nevertheless: thanks for your friendly repl, thegipsy!

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By: Denis - 20th June 2015 at 14:10

Personally I would not help erna anymore until he becomes a bit more helpful in answering that question!

With Germany probably having its fair share of ‘site robbers’ I can see the logic of him not answering that question this early on.

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By: thegypsy - 20th June 2015 at 09:51

It would appear that erna does not want to answer the question as to the locality of the crash site, not sure why as he only has to give a rough idea and Hampden Project would be more likely to identify the aircraft. Personally I would not help erna anymore until he becomes a bit more helpful in answering that question!

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By: superplum - 19th June 2015 at 21:56

Re 303 cartridge made at RL = Royal Laboratory, Woolwich Arsenal, Kent, UK.

…..and the “W 1” stamp indicates that it was an armour-piercing round.

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By: 12jaguar - 19th June 2015 at 20:15

Hi Erna

Kidde – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidde

regards

John

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By: erna - 19th June 2015 at 19:38

incredible, your knowledge is amazing. everybodys knowledge in this forum…

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By: tommy17 - 19th June 2015 at 19:27

In post 13 i read 6D/77
6D/77 = Cylinders, gas Carbon dioxide : Mark I
Its probably the band from the gas cylinder.

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By: erna - 19th June 2015 at 18:53

Mmhhhh, is Kidde Part of an englisch Word?,you know i am german….

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By: Zidante - 16th June 2015 at 09:43

Is the “Kidde” band in post 13 something to do with a fire extinguisher or fire suppression system?

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By: Hampden Project - 16th June 2015 at 08:26

Hello Erna

If you can give me a location of the crash site I could look through my records to try and identify the aircraft for you, which town or village is it near ?.

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By: Hampden Project - 15th June 2015 at 20:40

There will be no parts with the aircraft serial number on them, the only place that serial numbers could be found would be painted on the inside of the engine cowlings.

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By: erna - 15th June 2015 at 19:48

thanks, so take a look at this:

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By: Richard gray - 15th June 2015 at 19:24

Re 303 cartridge made at RL = Royal Laboratory, Woolwich Arsenal, Kent, UK.

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By: erna - 15th June 2015 at 19:03

wow, very good job! thank you. do you think i can find numbers with “L” or “P” on parts or are these serial numbers only visibel on nameplates? i hope, you can understand me, my englisch lessons are so far away… i mean, which kind of numbers may help to identify the plane?

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