April 20, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Hi all.
I thought id let you know that i visited the Kent Battle of Britain Museum at Hawkinge last Saturday.
This is a Museum that i personally visit in the region of ten times per season, reason being there is never near enough time to take in all the displays and exhibits.it covers hundreds of displays that cover crashsites through out the Battle.
There have been quite a few new additions since last year, these are a few that spring to mind.(There are more)
Replica Boulton Paul Defiant
Stuka rear fuselage.
Stuka main wheel faring (with numerous bullet strikes)
Spitfire replica K5054 (of which once took to the skies until its sad end)
Almost certain that i see a full Stuka contol column. (rarest of the rare)
Also a lot more new displays have been added to this massive Battle of Britain collection. (The biggest collection in the World)
Some of the displays are housed in 3 of the original former airfield buildings including the original operations block,(incidently there are still remains a bullet strike through the original roof of this building, whilst it was under Luftwaffe attack)
Also the old Armoury houses uniforms aviation prints a colection of Weoponry, medals, log books, also artifacts from the likes of Lord Dowding Robert Stanford Tuck and Sir Douglas Bader and many more.
Another new addition to the Museum this year is the new 25 squadron Mess and Tea room, this is another nice improvment to the facillities, as gives you the chance to grab a cuppa and a bite to eat and take in all that you have seen so far, before entering back in to the Museum for the second part of the Journey into the Battle. (incidently i highly recommend the home made Cakes) they are to die for. (The catering on site is pleasantly provided by Laura) also on the menu there are the likes of Sandwiches, toasties crumpets, and various other lite bites..undercover seating for inclement days, as well as outside on sunny days on the newly constructed patio… you could almost be back in the 1940s.
Any questions you may need to ask and the the very friendly Volunteers are in hand to help.and beyond that there is David Brocklehurst M.B.E. there to help with any questions reference the Battle, as he is extremely knowledgeable and helpful on this subject.. (Many a time during my visit you would see him helping numerous people with there Questions.)
This Museum certainly brings home the Human side of this conflict during WW2 and tells the Story of those who thought and died in the Battle in Great detail and depth.. for anyone who hasnt as yet visited PLEASE spare the time to see the Museums Curators and Volunteers dedication and hard work..(I promise anyone that you will not be disapointed…) But be warned one visit will not be enough..
I have to admit i spent some 4 hours at Hawkinge on Saturday but seemed more like half an hour as time just flys past you…
I feel i havent done the Museum the justice it deserves but below is a link for further information.
Cheers for reading Brad..
By: paul1867 - 24th April 2015 at 17:04
My problem is when they call my wife and daughter sisters. Seems to please she who must be….. though.
By: AlanR - 24th April 2015 at 16:49
The real downer is when you ask for an age concession and they give it to you without question. I have never been queried, and that’s a real bummer. I positively WANT to go to somewhere that refuses me entry because I look too young!
Moggy
I know the feeling 🙂
On the other hand, several years ago I went into B&Q to buy a pressure washer. When I went to pay I was given the
Wednesday Seniors discount. I was only in my mid-50s !!
I’ve only been to Hawkinge once, which must have been about 20yrs ago. Unfortunately we had my wife’s sister and
kids with us. So after about half an hour we had to go 🙁
By: paul1867 - 24th April 2015 at 11:35
I always feel guilty using concession entrance prices or buy one get one hnfree vouchers published in a certain magazine. I mean they need the money and every pound helps.
The worst museum I have ever visited of any type or size is the IWM North. If they had charged for entry I would have asked for my money back. Visit this first to see how it shouldn’t be done, IMHO, then everything else looks good.
Have recently visited the museums at Manston both of which are excellent. The Merlin cafe is worth the trip alone!
By: SADSACK - 22nd April 2015 at 19:24
Exactly!
When I sat in a wooden mock up of a Spitfire when I was 9, do you think I would have cared if somebody told me it wasn’t real? Then again would anyone have thought I would be bitten and still into the hobby more than 30 years later?
If a child gets into the hobby, then buys airfix kits then great. Thats probably how a lot of aircrew and museum volunteers started out!
By: hawker1966 - 22nd April 2015 at 19:19
The replica aircraft for me look great and give you that feel of the original aircraft, especially for the younger generation who visit the Museum, as there is nothing better than seeing there eyes pop out when they see the likes of the Hawker Hurricane, Spitfire and not forgetting the Defiant in all its glory. (The next best thing to the originals)
Also these replicas played a big part in the 1968 feature film “The Battle of Britain” Not forgetting also the signitures of the Airman that thought the Battle that also grace the line up of these Aircraft..
By: SADSACK - 22nd April 2015 at 19:02
90% of visitors do not realise the aircraft on display are replicas, neither would they care. It would be nice to have lines of real ones but its better to have a replica painted in the colours of a very brave pilot, rather than not have an a/c at all! Often these replicas are unveiled by relatives of the crews. Ideally all of the spitfires stored at Cosford would be loaned to musuems, but sadly not all of them are.
By: Moggy C - 22nd April 2015 at 16:04
Having read a few of the negative Trip Advisor reviews for the museum it has bobbed up to the top of my ‘must go’ list.
Passing the magic 60 is pretty depressing if you let it get to you, but the one good thing is cheap entrances to a lot of places. Reading this:
Having travelled 70 miles the disappointment is reflected from the very start of the visit when my partner (aged 72 ) was refused a concessionary entrance fee because “he did not look old enough”
… means I have to visit. The real downer is when you ask for an age concession and they give it to you without question. I have never been queried, and that’s a real bummer. I positively WANT to go to somewhere that refuses me entry because I look too young!
Moggy
By: charliehunt - 22nd April 2015 at 14:46
Haha!;) Classic. Those examples just about sum up Trip Advisor for me!!
“………everybody has one and some are one”.
By: Meddle - 22nd April 2015 at 14:38
I have fallen foul of Trip Advisor too many times to even deem them worth a look anymore. Is any museum perfect? As I have stated previously there is much which could be improved but given what they have and how they have improved over the years I think it’s a unique display of the all the facets of the Battle of Britain, with much else besides. And if the rules on photography do not suit, then don’t go. It’s that simple. But going and then complaining is simply pathetic. As for the staff/volunteers – I have going for many years and do not recognise the criticisms made.
As I am nowhere near Kent I have to rely on online reports of the museum at Hawkinge. I’ve heard about their no camera rule before, but it doesn’t seem such a crazy request given recent activities at Solent Sky. Some dirty laundry is there for all to view on Trip Advisor, with the manager counter-commenting against one negative review. Speaking of Trip Advisor, Arthur’s Seat in Edinburgh has an entry (!) which has clocked up some one star reviews (!!), such as;
Unfortunately, unless you come prepared with walking gear, you probably won’t make it up. We got 1/4 up in trainers, to realise if we went any further we’d get stuck or end up coming down on our bums. Its such a shame there wasn’t a solid route all the way up – we went to get the sun rise, so this kind of ruined our day a bit (oh nature! it was even sunny!)
and…
Roller coaster we had heard about we could not find. It was too high and at the top no seat. With the name Arthur’s seat we had expected a chair for photographs
and…
Unless you are really determined to see what’s there, then I wouldn’t bother. It’s a very long climb, the final stretch is extremely hazardous. If an accident occurred up there it would be a mountain rescue team and possibly helicopter to the rescue!! There are no signs pointing you in the right direction and there are several paths up to the top, some more treacherous than others. Don’t forget that if you manage to get up there you also have to come down!!
To use a popular synecdoche, opinions are like assholes; everybody has one.
By: Clint Mitchell - 22nd April 2015 at 13:29
But ruined by the attitude of the staff and their paranoia about mobile phones, cameras and bags.[/I]
That’s life, deal with it. If anyone doesn’t like the rules don’t go. It really is that simple. I brief perusal of their website will inform anyone who wishes to know what the museums policies are. Many places make rules regarding entry to private premises. The reasons for doing so are entirely up to the museum and there’s nothing you or anyone else for that matter can do about it. If that puts you off from visiting the museum then it’s your loss.
By: charliehunt - 22nd April 2015 at 13:10
I have fallen foul of Trip Advisor too many times to even deem them worth a look anymore. Is any museum perfect? As I have stated previously there is much which could be improved but given what they have and how they have improved over the years I think it’s a unique display of the all the facets of the Battle of Britain, with much else besides. And if the rules on photography do not suit, then don’t go. It’s that simple. But going and then complaining is simply pathetic. As for the staff/volunteers – I have going for many years and do not recognise the criticisms made.
By: stuart gowans - 22nd April 2015 at 12:54
I haven’t been yet, although I follow them on facebook, and yes they do post pictures of the exhibits, I would think they are a bit tight on space, but would much rather go to a museum that was rammed, rather than an art gallery “installation” type of modern display; one mans piece of junk is another mans piece of history…….
By: Meddle - 22nd April 2015 at 12:52
Some very interesting opinions shared on Trip Advisor.
A decent enough collection, if quite cramped and scruffy. But ruined by the attitude of the staff and their paranoia about mobile phones, cameras and bags.
By: David Burke - 22nd April 2015 at 12:11
I don’t think anyone is disputing the quality of the Battle of Britain artifacts . There is a lack of space to display the likes of the Tiger Moth and other related aircraft . Sensibly many would I guess wish to see those on display instead of the likes of the Fokker DR1 and multiple FSM Spitfires
By: Clint Mitchell - 22nd April 2015 at 09:47
Hawkinge is quite frankly a fantastic museum. For hardcore Battle of Britain enthusiasts you are unlikely to see a better collection of real BOB relics in one place. For those wanting to get picky and anal with their comments you could quite easily say the same about Hendon and their “Battle of Britain” hall which houses a He111H-20 which didn’t see service until early 1944. A Ju87G-2 which didn’t see service until 1943. A Ju88R-1 nightfighter which was in use much later than the BOB and Bf110G-2 nightfighter same story… For those that don’t like plastic replica aircraft there are millions of modellers world wide who would disagree…
By: Moggy C - 21st April 2015 at 22:02
I suppose as we have a Lancaster in the BBMF, something twenty odd years before the Battle of Britain is just stretching the time period of the conflict a little further in the opposite direction.
Moggy
By: Septic - 21st April 2015 at 20:46
Re: Gotha replica.
Folkestone is the nearest town to Hawkinge, type in Gotha and Folkestone into Google and you will see how appropriate the exhibit will be to the museum, Planned expansion including a new hangar will finally allow the collection to exhibit its WW1 artefacts.
By: hawker1966 - 21st April 2015 at 18:42
I have to say that my wife visited the Battle of Britain Museum with me last year and came away and said that she had enjoyed the displays and above all the personal stories, i even see a tear in her eye whilst reading one of the display boards… and must say she has no real interest in my hobbie what so ever (but is very understanding of my passion.. (God bless her)
When we got home she said i have to say i really enjoyed my Day.. She loves the 1940s we often hit the 40s shows circuits around the country as she loves the entertinment side of things (Ref Dance) so i guess you can say everyone is different in this world as far as opinions arise, but majority of visiters come away with only good things to say..
But like i say everyone is different.. and you have to respect that.
By: Mike J - 21st April 2015 at 17:35
Well, we were in and out in the space of less than 10 minutes, so the ensuing placatory meal was considerable cheaper than that! 🙂
By: Moggy C - 21st April 2015 at 17:21
Quite so.
I visited the 39-45 Museum at Ambleteuse on Friday. It is a little gem, and I know that I can return with Mrs Moggy and she’ll be happy enough. It is single-minded in presenting a timeline illustrated by chronological dioramas of uniforms and equipment from each point in the war.
I also visited at least one such as you describe, and it would take a mind-bogglingly expensive Michelin-star standard meal in the evening to placate Mrs Moggy if I were ever to drag her there.
Moggy