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Typhoon Project for sale

So who has asked Santa for this one?:highly_amused:

http://www.raf-surplus.co.uk/aircraft-for-sale.php

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By: SADSACK - 2nd January 2015 at 15:47

Elvington would be a logical home for her. Lets face it shes not going to fly again. With the halifax and mosquito theres nowhere you could see them together.

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By: oldgit158 - 2nd January 2015 at 15:38

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Having built this tempest V cockpit frame, i don’t see a lot of specific tempest parts

Tiffyman,

Would love to read more about your project please,

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By: dylan9391 - 29th December 2014 at 21:09

It would be amazing for two things to happen:
The first is that I win the lottery and secondly that I win enough to buy this wonderful Typhoon recreation. The sheer amount of work and money that goes into amassing enough parts to make such an amazing fuselage in the first place and then the skill in putting it altogether. Quite superb

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By: Mark12 - 28th December 2014 at 17:18

I once contemplated making Ralph Hull an offer for a huge amount of original Spitfire stuff he had, all left over from various restorations, and which would have formed the majority of a fuselage. These were all original wartime manufactured parts, and if assembled, would have become….? What?

You would have become the proud owner of a Spitfire project but lacking provenance….and I would be minus a few skin panels on my Mk 22 project.

(GrahamF please note the 22 also has a data plate with RAF serial number ;))

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By: windhover - 28th December 2014 at 16:58

Originally, Roger used Tempest front wing mount attachment cross-members which have since been replaced.

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The lower frame longitudinal tubes from joint C to joint K (Forward wing mount to aft wing mount)… are still Tempest-style Square section instead of Typhoon 2¼”, 14 gauge, T50 round-section, squared to take joints F and N… but all things considered; the asking price is fair when you take into account the rarity and cost of proper Typhoon components (if you can actually find any.)

Have a look at this…
http://www.jetagemuseum.org/Typhoon.aspx

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By: Bruce - 28th December 2014 at 12:42

I wasn’t throwing Spitfires into the mix, for any other reason than to demonstrate that a collection of related parts from any aircraft, means you have an example of that aircraft.

So, yes, this is a Typhoon, even if it does have a load of Tempest parts in it, that are the same part number.

I’ll try not to be so subtle next time…

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By: Runway06 - 28th December 2014 at 11:31

Looks like it’s a Typhoon to me. Nice project.

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By: Oxcart - 27th December 2014 at 22:29

For what it’s worth, I don’t care what it’s provenance is. I think it looks great and can appreciate the enormous amount of work that’s obviously gone into it.

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By: Wyvernfan - 27th December 2014 at 21:36

The direction of the thread is a little unfair, there is an awful lot of original and genuine typhoon parts in Rogers project. I have nothing but admiration for the time and effort Roger has put in to raise the profile of the typhoon and it’s crew

Agreed. As someone who has also devoted a big part of his life to collecting parts, photos and information for a particular aircraft type (though admittedly not as successfully as Roger) I too have nothing but admiration and praise for this impressive Typhoon project.
And as someone has already said, find another!

Rob

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By: Snapper - 27th December 2014 at 21:23

Nah leave the Spitfire rubbish for one of the millions of spitfire reproduction threads. For once there’s a thread about a proper, and not dime-a-dozen, workhorse warbird project, one that’s incredibly important and incredibly neglected so to dilute it with irrelevant pretty-boy Spitfire posts does it a disservice.

I have the pleasure of having been friends with some of those pilots who signed upon Roger’s fuselage, knew all but two of them quite well, one of whom was really pleased to see the pictures of it again this week. He walked away from a piece of one, jumped out of another and regards the Typhoon as most regard their first true love. Maligned throughout time because it couldn’t intercept up top it only ever gets a mention of ground attack despite being a vital cornerstone of the south east defence in early 1943 at which time it was shown to **** over the 190’s, which the spit models of the time were struggling with on the low level tip and run raids. Bloody good for cross-channel sweeps too. About time we saw some serious representations of them out in public and stopped having them overshadowed by Spitfire inc. (even if they are lovely.)

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By: Whitley_Project - 27th December 2014 at 20:50

I think you would have a ‘bitsa’ Bruce!

I once contemplated making Ralph Hull an offer for a huge amount of original Spitfire stuff he had, all left over from various restorations, and which would have formed the majority of a fuselage. These were all original wartime manufactured parts, and if assembled, would have become….? What?

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By: AnthonyG - 27th December 2014 at 20:00

Well I for one think this project is a cracker. Outside of RAFM very little survives in one place. Dave, I loved your article in CW, it was my favourite in that issue. Well done, very informative and interesting, many eyes are watching, keep up the hard work!!! Projects like this are a true labour of love, thank goodness we have people like this around the world. Without them stuff like this wouldn’t be here for us to debate over.

As for the Spit 12,(sorry for the thread drift) bring it on! That is an awesome project and an important gap in the Spitfire history that needs filling!

Now I must get back to working on my humble little Auster!!

Cheers
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By: TempestV - 27th December 2014 at 17:29

Unless Roger has done a lot of work in the last two years replacing his “typhoon pilots signed” new build rear fuselage with the sea fury one I saw at the same time sitting along side it, I doubt he has.
As for typhoon/tempest cockpit structure, there are unique parts to each, but a lot in common too.

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By: tiffyman - 27th December 2014 at 16:28

Er it has….

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Having built this tempest V cockpit frame, i don’t see a lot of specific tempest parts

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By: GrahamF - 27th December 2014 at 15:45

Er it has….

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By: tiffyman - 27th December 2014 at 15:13

So have these Spitfire parts actually come off a MK12? If not it confirms the point Im making if you collect a series of parts together and ‘decide’ on a chosen aircraft I.e. A Typhoon with a Tempest cockpit frame,Sea Fury fuselage it doesn’t make it a Typhoon even if those parts could fit on.

The cockpit frame isn’t Tempest, the firewall/bulkhead is Typhoon, as are both the front and rear spars

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By: Junk Collector - 27th December 2014 at 14:52

Back to Typhoons, a plethora of other spitfire threads exist

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By: David Burke - 27th December 2014 at 14:43

It wouldn’t be Christmas without a Spitfire tale !

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By: Bruce - 27th December 2014 at 14:40

I once contemplated making Ralph Hull an offer for a huge amount of original Spitfire stuff he had, all left over from various restorations, and which would have formed the majority of a fuselage. These were all original wartime manufactured parts, and if assembled, would have become….? What?

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By: TempestV - 27th December 2014 at 14:26

So have these Spitfire parts actually come off a MK12? If not it confirms the point Im making if you collect a series of parts together and ‘decide’ on a chosen aircraft I.e. A Typhoon with a Tempest cockpit frame,Sea Fury fuselage it doesn’t make it a Typhoon even if those parts could fit on.

Er, how many times? It does not have a. Sea fury rear fuselage.

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