A friend has asked if I can identify and or find a picture of an emblem or badge that appears on some Miles aircraft . It is circular and can be seen on the upper rear fuselage of some Aerovans , and the fins of some Messengers and Gemini . It does not appear on all the aircraft or even most of the aircraft and I think on G-AKKH it only appears on the left hand fin and probably only the left hand side . I am sure someone here will be able to help . Thanks in advance .
By: avion ancien - 5th December 2014 at 11:54
Ah, I didn’t spot the hidden hyperlink!
As to your theory, wieesso, it works up to a point. A number of the foreign registered aircraft referred to in post #5 were previously UK registered, but not all. For example, Aerovan ZK-AWV had only a UK G Class registration (G-21-3) before going to New Zealand and for Gemini HB-EKS there is no record of any registration prior to its Swiss one. Maybe in these cases, the answer to my question is that they were sold with the benefit of a new UK CofA. Maybe they needed to have that for the ferry flight?
By: wieesso - 5th December 2014 at 10:09
I found this on the internet. The design appears to be the same as that posted by wieesso although the colours appear to differ. That might just be the effect of light on the material. But this offers no explanation for such a sticker being affixed to Belgian, Swiss and New Zealand aircraft!
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The same as in post #8 😉 – could be an answer, that the aircraft were prior operated in GB?
By: avion ancien - 5th December 2014 at 09:53
I found this on the internet. The design appears to be the same as that posted by wieesso although the colours appear to differ. That might just be the effect of light on the material. But this offers no explanation for such a sticker being affixed to Belgian, Swiss and New Zealand aircraft!
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By: OHOPE - 4th December 2014 at 02:39
This is a distinct possibility , but as all the images are black and white it is hard to say for sure . Thank you .
By: avion ancien - 3rd December 2014 at 22:08
But why would there be UK(?) CofA badges on Belgian, Swiss and New Zealand aircraft?
By: wieesso - 3rd December 2014 at 21:17
So as I mentioned above, it’s a Certificate of Airworthiness sticker.
HTH
By: Sabrejet - 3rd December 2014 at 20:10
So as I mentioned above, it’s a Certificate of Airworthiness sticker.
HTH
By: wieesso - 3rd December 2014 at 19:04
Thank you for that image but now I can see that it is not the same as the one on some Aerovans , and it is the Aerovan one I am interested in . On G-AJKM it appears above and between the A and the J on starboard side , it also appears on the port side rear door on both the New Zealand aircraft .
…more like this? [ATTACH=CONFIG]233667[/ATTACH] or this http://www.maf-uk.org/uploads/images/Jack%20Murray%20Stuart%20and%20Ken_2_.jpg
By: avion ancien - 3rd December 2014 at 18:24
Maybe it would help if you described the emblem/badge of which you speak, OHOPE. I’ve taken a look at Don Brown’s monograph on Miles Aircraft and note that a number of post war aeroplanes carry a badge which appears to be two concentric cicles with what look like clock hands within them. Sadly the photographs are small and even a magnifying glass doesn’t produce a level of clarity that enable me to describe the badge with precision. Of the photographs which appear in the monograph, this badge appears on:
– Messenger G-AKKO on the outboard side of the port rudder
– Messenger HB-EIP on the outboard side of the port fin
– Messenger G-AKAV on the outboard side of the port fin
– Messenger G-AKIS on the outboard side of the port fin
– Messenger G-AILI on the outboard side of the port fin
– Aerovan ZK-AWV aft of the registration mark on the port clamshell door
– Gemini G-AJWS on the outboard side of the port rudder
– Gemini G-AIHM on the outboard side of the port fin
– Gemini HB-EKS on the outboard side of the starboard fin (above the white cross on a red band)
– Gemini OO-ODR on the outboard side of the port fin
but the actual position of the badge, whether on the fuselage, fin or rudder, does not seem to be standard and varies considerably.
I’m afraid that I haven’t yet had the time to look at my photographs of Miles aeroplanes to see what appears in those!
By: Sabrejet - 3rd December 2014 at 18:04
I think it’s a Certificate of Airworthiness sticker: as seen on the prototype Marathon, shortly before its crash. Ironically.
By: OHOPE - 3rd December 2014 at 17:42
Thank you for that image but now I can see that it is not the same as the one on some Aerovans , and it is the Aerovan one I am interested in . On G-AJKM it appears above and between the A and the J on starboard side , it also appears on the port side rear door on both the New Zealand aircraft .
By: wieesso - 3rd December 2014 at 13:35
G-AKKH
Maybe you mean the badge of GAPAN, the Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators
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Martin
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