Recent Visits To Deutsches Museum Munich And Flugwerft Schleissheim

One of the major problems with some of those configurations with lift-engines widely separated on the wings is the behaviour in the event of loss of an engine – an uncontrollable rolling moment which results in loss of aircraft and probably the crew if it occurs close to the ground.
Andy

Nice pictures. I don’t remember seeing the 109, 163, 262 and Natter when I was there circa Sept 2007. I remember the CASA 111 being mid-restoration and it’s nice to see the end result.

Do you have any more photos of the VJ101 & VAK191?
The period of early VTOL attempts is quite interesting.
Good that the museum has these examples.

I remember when “Flight” was full of these VTOL craft. I was particularly enthralled then with the Dornier 31 and the HS681. Amazing that only the P1127 was developed. I suppose it was the multi engine issue that was a stumbling block (and the governments)

I’d like to ask if the 262 is an original or reproduction? Great photos and very interesting. A Natter!

This is an original, the one piloted by Hans-Guido Mutke, flown to Dübendorf/Switzerland on 25.04.1945. In August 1957 the 262 was given to Deutsches Museum by Swiss Authorities. Natter is a replica.

Originally Posted by Good Vibs
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PS: I agree about the Oktoberfest.
Most German cities have their own such “activities” during the same time period & much more enjoyable.

Fully agreed, and most are much cheaper as well. 1 liter (Maß) beer was at this years Munich Oktoberfest between 9.70 € to 10.10 €!! Plain folly, robbery IMHO. If you do not need to buy premium (priced) beer, you can get a crate with 20 x 0.5 bottles for that! That is 10 liters instead of one……

I’d like to ask if the 262 is an original or reproduction? Great photos and very interesting. A Natter!

Do you have any more photos of the VJ101 & VAK191?
The period of early VTOL attempts is quite interesting.
Good that the museum has these examples.

PS: I agree about the Oktoberfest.
Most German cities have their own such “activities” during the same time period & much more enjoyable.

I worked in Munich from 1992 to 2005 (on the Eurofighter Flight Controls Joint Team, but that’s a bit too modern for this forum!), and used to visit both the Deutsches Museum and Flugwerft Schleissheim regularly. Both are fantastic museums, totally recommended. But you need at least half a dozen visits to the city-centre museum before you can claim to have seen it all, the aircraft section alone is a worth most of a day!
Andy

Though it has been some time since I have been there, I want to second your recommendation. If you only want to just have a overview of the whole museum, even if you just stay at those exhibits you are interested in, to have seen it all you need a week. (Ok, nobody is interested in every single exhibit, but there are literally thousands of them). Much better idea to visit Munich for its several Museums, than for overpriced, overrun and overrated Oktoberfest!

Michael

I worked in Munich from 1992 to 2005 (on the Eurofighter Flight Controls Joint Team, but that’s a bit too modern for this forum!), and used to visit both the Deutsches Museum and Flugwerft Schleissheim regularly. Both are fantastic museums, totally recommended. But you need at least half a dozen visits to the city-centre museum before you can claim to have seen it all, the aircraft section alone is a worth most of a day!
Andy

Many thanks.

Always nice to see the various prototypes on display, such as the VAK191 & VJ101. Sporty looking car below the tail of D-9518!
Excellent photos.
Thanks

Nice to see some pictures from a different location.

Natter (Replica)
The above is only a small sample. I am happy to provide any photos that people wish from these locations.

Very nice. Did you get any of the Natter visible in the background of the Me 262 shot?