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Sipa S10, S11 and S12 survivors

I wondered if anyone on here has any idea how many of these aircraft survive and if any are airworthy, also are there any in the U.K. Thanks.

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By: Mike J - 27th August 2014 at 16:27

Looking at picture 3 that ‘kahmer’ has posted above though, the sum total of the wreckage held in Berlin from both aircraft seems to amount to ‘not a whole lot.’ 🙁

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By: avion ancien - 27th August 2014 at 15:06

Just for the sake of completeness, perhaps it should be mentioned that the last survivor – that which appeared in ‘The Eagle has Landed’ – was F-BLKH, which crashed at la Ferté Alais on 15 October 1978, killing both of its occupants. What remained – perhaps that which was noted by Consul – ended up with the Deutsches Technikmuseum in Berlin, along with the remains of another SIPA (which variant, I don’t know) which, it is reported, was discovered by a walker in the Pas de Calais in 1983. So far I haven’t been able to trace any information about this beyond that what was found, in a thicket alongside a small road leading to Marquise, were pieces of the fuselage, the wings and the fin.

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By: kahmer - 27th August 2014 at 14:22

A few years after it crashed I found the rear fuselage and tail feathers of this aircraft dumped in the woods at Ferte Alais :apologetic:

Tim

Hi Tim,.
are your pictures?!

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More pics Wreckage to Berlin and the SIPA aircraft:

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My Pieces of the Ar396 …

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I’m looking for more parts and literature to the ARADO Ar396 – please offer !!!

Best regards Christoph

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By: Sopwith - 26th August 2014 at 22:34

So that’s none – sadly – out of 234. The production details, between 1945 and 1954, are as follows:

– S.10 : 30
– S.11 : 50
– S.111: 54
– S.12 : 52
– S.121: 48

and that’s despite a reasonable number having been demilitarised and having served with civilian owners into the sixties. But then, the sixties were half a century ago. My, do I feel old!

Thanks avion ancient, that really is a great shame, such a lovely looking plane.

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By: avion ancien - 26th August 2014 at 22:20

So that’s none – sadly – out of 234. The production details, between 1945 and 1954, are as follows:

– S.10 : 30
– S.11 : 50
– S.111: 54
– S.12 : 52
– S.121: 48

and that’s despite a reasonable number having been demilitarised and having served with civilian owners into the sixties. But then, the sixties were half a century ago. My, do I feel old!

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By: Sopwith - 26th August 2014 at 21:43

None, seems to be the general opinion.

Well that’s a bit of a ****** if correct

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By: Mike J - 26th August 2014 at 21:10

None, seems to be the general opinion.

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By: Sopwith - 26th August 2014 at 21:06

Are there many left guys?

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By: Consul - 26th August 2014 at 20:52

Spot on AA – the very substantial remains of ‘IWA were also there.

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By: avion ancien - 26th August 2014 at 20:37

Maybe the same woods as those in which the post-crash remains of G-AIWA lingered awhile before shuffling off this mortal coil?

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By: Consul - 26th August 2014 at 19:18

Watching ‘The Eagle has Landed’ are we ? :rolleyes:

That one displayed once at Old Warden, but crashed in the mid ’70’s. I don’t believe any are in the UK

A few years after it crashed I found the rear fuselage and tail feathers of this aircraft dumped in the woods at Ferte Alais :apologetic:

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By: Graham Boak - 26th August 2014 at 14:43

Previously known as the Arado Ar396, but a bit modified.

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By: Sopwith - 26th August 2014 at 08:54

Watching ‘The Eagle has Landed’ are we ? :rolleyes:

That one displayed once at Old Warden, but crashed in the mid ’70’s. I don’t believe any are in the UK

Yep spot on. That’s what fired me up to ask.:D

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By: DazDaMan - 25th August 2014 at 22:52

Nice-looking kite. Don’t think I ever saw it appear in any other war films, though.

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By: Propstrike - 25th August 2014 at 22:40

This is interesting

http://www.aeromovies.fr/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=967

” SIPA S.121 was like Bf.108 / North 1000 or the Pilatus P2, doomed to play the “Messerschmitt” when you do not have HA 1112 Buchon on hand or credits to rent one. So it was a good practice, but never very convincing substitute, because he had not the most “physical” jobs than other liners. It seems that the memory of this rare bird is quickly dissipated, even among its former owners, only remain so today’s lightning passages in movies. ”

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By: DazDaMan - 25th August 2014 at 22:31

Funnily enough, I’m watching that, too!

Couldn’t remember what that plane was called for the life of me!

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By: Propstrike - 25th August 2014 at 22:30

Here we are.

see here http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?54346-Aircraft-in-The-Eagle-Has-Landed

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By: Propstrike - 25th August 2014 at 22:25

Watching ‘The Eagle has Landed’ are we ? :rolleyes:

That one displayed once at Old Warden, but crashed in the mid ’70’s. I don’t believe any are in the UK

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