By: fah619 - 7th August 2014 at 00:32
Rich:
Good day!
I tend to agree with you about the sample above being a poss Brewster type F4U. The sleek tires & the eng cowling font # are a bit diff than the Goodyear #s.
p.s AEC=Aviation Enthusiast Corner: a fine website with tons of pics fm all over the aviation world. Ck it out when you get a chance!!
By: RMAllnutt - 6th August 2014 at 23:11
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
Found a something a bit close in S/N to KD431. #531 place ukn c. WW.II for now. Still looking for a savy photographer in the FAA Museum area for some close-ups shots of the museum sample. Tks. Photo via AEC.
This aircraft is either JS531 (a Brewster-built Corsair Mk.III) or JT531 (a Vought-built Corsair Mk.II). The camouflage markings make it absolutely certain it isn’t KD531 (a Goodyear-built Corsair Mk.IV) as that aircraft would have been in overall gloss navy blue. I’m pretty certain that all British Goodyear-built Corsairs came off the production line in overall gloss navy blue in fact, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
Cheers,
Richard
By: RMAllnutt - 6th August 2014 at 23:04
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
A sample of the FAA Royal Navy ID cockpit plate. They were a bit diff than the US F4U Corsairs. In this case sample F4U-1 “JT289” is shown. It was flown by the late Lt. John D. Wallace c. 12/1943. Photo AEC via D. King. KD431 had one installed of the L/hand side above the console wall. For now..it remains missing!! Photo via AEC.
Interesting that you have a photo of my Corsair plate here… Vintage Wings of Canada used this to illustrate a story on the late Hugh Pawson, a Canadian Corsair pilot with the Royal Navy. What is AEC by the way?
Cheers,
Richard
By: fah619 - 30th July 2014 at 04:46
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
We are about to find if the cockpit plate of Buno 92399 now at Cavanaugh Flight Museum in Addison. TX is still the original UK type. It may yield some clues about the intrinsic details of KD431. Just to ponder for a bit since the KD431 Book by Mr. D. Morris mentions very little on the subject, …when did the FAA Museum folks found out that the cockpit ID plate (factory type)
was missing?? Just to illustrate,… what we F4U buffs believed it may have looked like when in place. It might be still around!!! Photo via AEC.
By: fah619 - 25th July 2014 at 14:40
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
A sample of the FAA Royal Navy ID cockpit plate. They were a bit diff than the US F4U Corsairs. In this case sample F4U-1 “JT289” is shown. It was flown by the late Lt. John D. Wallace c. 12/1943. Photo AEC via D. King. KD431 had one installed of the L/hand side above the console wall. For now..it remains missing!! Photo via AEC.
By: fah619 - 23rd July 2014 at 16:43
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
An id plate similar to the one included should also be in place on the L/S H/Stab pulling the L/elevator down a bit. Another Mod id plate should be on the R/S of the wall of the radio compartment entry wall (aft section). These id plates/mod plates were common to Vought a/c & Goodyear type. Will appreciate if someone takes a second look. Sent similar questions to the FAA Museum folks. Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 22nd July 2014 at 14:00
JDK:
Good day!
Rg! We’ll do. I already see a few discrepancies between the U.S Contract # & the C/n (Goodyear Factory Sequence) of this bird. Tks
By: JDK - 22nd July 2014 at 00:29
fah619 – you need to contact the museum, or have a look at the book mentioned on the works and history of the aircraft, for that level of information. Other than someone prepared to look through Dave Morris’ book for you (anyone?) this forum isn’t going to answer that question.
One of the tailplanes (horizontal stab in American) is a Brewster produced item, but I believe the rest of the airframe is the same production aircraft. What dataplates there are I don’t know. However I do know the museum curatorial staff will know.
However the Bureau of Aeronautics number isn’t a mystery. From the linked website above: “Built at Akron, Ohio by Goodyear Aircraft Co as FG-1A, Buaer n.o. 14862 – c.n. 1871”.
Museum contact details:
http://www.fleetairarm.com/contact-aviation-museum.aspx
And, FYI, I’m in Australia, and last saw the aircraft at the end of the restoration in 2004, before it was rolled out.
Good luck!
Regards,
By: Mike J - 22nd July 2014 at 00:08
I think you’ll find that Mr K lives even further away from KD431 than you do! 😉
By: fah619 - 22nd July 2014 at 00:05
JDK:
Good day!
Did the wings id plates reveal/show diff Bunos?? How about the flaps?? I know of a couple of Mod plates on a Vought a/c that may me applicable to KD431. I’ll be glad to show specific location points if someone would like to further enquire the Buno of this bird.
By: JDK - 21st July 2014 at 11:55
Think the restoration book theme needs a new thread…
By: TMN - 21st July 2014 at 09:14
Some photos of KD431 taken at the end of April:
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More here: www.aviationanoraks.co.uk
By: pogno - 20th July 2014 at 07:01
P-38 Lightning by Jesse Alexander published 1990 Chronicles the restoration of 44-23314 ‘Joltin Josie’ at Chino.
By: ErrolC - 19th July 2014 at 21:30
Excellent read- bought it at the time, last time I was at the FAA Museum they still had some for sale…can’t believe its going for £70!!!
Which got me thinking….feel free to add to list – aircraft restorations that have had their own book written about them….
Spitfire Return to Flight (PV270)
http://www.spitfirepv270.co.nz/trade.htm
By: fah619 - 19th July 2014 at 19:38
KD431 Folks:
Good day!
Do the current sample has a Vought/Goodyear cabin ID plate in place?? If it does will you plz post. Tks in advance.
By: Roobarb - 19th July 2014 at 19:28
Two Blenheim books by the late Graham Warner covering two restorations.
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 19th July 2014 at 17:11
70% of “Shackleton WR977 – Dedication To Duty” covers its restoration – does that count? 😀
Sure does – any more for any more!?
TT
By: TwinOtter23 - 19th July 2014 at 17:08
70% of “Shackleton WR977 – Dedication To Duty” covers its restoration – does that count? 😀
By: TEXANTOMCAT - 19th July 2014 at 16:53
I bought the book second hand on Ebay. It’s a must read!
Excellent read- bought it at the time, last time I was at the FAA Museum they still had some for sale…can’t believe its going for £70!!!
Which got me thinking….feel free to add to list – aircraft restorations that have had their own book written about them….
KD431
R4118 (The Aviation Bookshop were selling these in softback for a fiver at Waddo and Legends – bargain!)
Black 6….
anyone got any more to add?