Harrier Control Column help please…

Hi Alan,

Here’s the number for Gok’s one!

AC63704

Just tried loading an image of it but, it failed for some reason!

Martyn

GYD

Thanks Ian, you posted slightly ahead of me.

Yes, the P1127 is very Gnatty. The Kestrel featured a developed version of it with a few more buttons to play with.

Anyone got Dunlop numbers for these, or for Gokone’s “traditional” Dunlop grip?

Thanks Martyn, that’s very useful to know.

I have the column for this grip, the previous owner having detached it to display the grip on a stand. It’s a simple “bent tube” compared to the rather more elaborate Page/Dowty versions. It makes the Harrier column display all the more interesting because of these little variations.

I think I’ll try a snail mail to Dowty about the mystery grip, I found their address on the net.

GokOne’s early Harrier grip was certainly an object of lust, it just looks beefier than the AC63720. Cockpitfest photo attached. Also attached a P1127 grip, from a big old ‘In the Cockpit’ book, very Gnatty.

Hi Alan,

Certainly the GR1 and T2’s, many of which were subsequently upgraded to either the GR3/T4 standard, though still retaining this grip; the change happened when the Mod for the Sidewinder changed to the style of grip in your pictures in post #1 akin to the FRS1 style.

However, Gok0ne has a beautiful early version of this style of early Harrier grip, with the Dunlop ‘crinkly’ covering that ian_ and I were both drooling over most jealously at Cockpitfest 2014!

Martyn

GYD

Just a quick update. No response from Dowty yet about the mystery grip.

Meanwhile, here is another Harrier grip. This one is a good old Dunlop AC63720. The question is: was this version unique to the GR3 or was it fitted to other versions too?

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Yes, I’m with GYD on export/fancy Hawk. Never heard of Page as a manufacturer. ‘Page’ is a challenging google. It’s all a learning experience!

Thanks Dave. I’ve sent an email via the contact page. I cannot figure out how to attach a photo so I’ve included a link to this thread, and to this post in particular.

Just to be sure then, this is the unidentified grip:-

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Any help will be much appreciated!

Hi Alan,

Latest incarnation of Dowty is Messier-Bugatti-Dowty. Main site is here:
http://www.safranmbd.com/systems-equipment-178/?lang=en

No longer have any contacts in Customer Support so best to use the contact link at the bottom of the page.

Regards

Dave

Thanks for the replies so far, guys.

It’s very welcome to have positive id on the three columns.

I never realised that “tank” grips could be so similar to aeroplane grips – I suppose it shows how out of touch I am with the more modern stuff.

Tony, I agree that the alignment of the machined grooves on the “stem” of the mystery grip are not right for the Harrier, but they appear to be in the same place as those on your Hawk grip (allowing for lens distortion, camera angle etc) such that if the mounting bolts were to be aligned exactly along the cockpits fore-and-aft axis, the grip itself would be comfortably offset to the left for a right handed operator. (I’m sure that would apply equally to tank grips anyway!)

Can anyone point me in the direction of Dowty, or whatever they are now, please? Perhaps their P.R. people would be prepared to help?

This is a pic of a Page made Red Arrows Hawk grip

Page was the OEM – original equipment manufacturer

could be that the ‘tank’ grip is export – just the locking grooves are in an odd place for a flt grip

Here’s a comparison between a Hawk grip and a ‘tank’ grip. The bottom grip looks more Hawk but the trim control looks American so perhaps export. I’m also after a trim switch for my FRS1 grip. I think ‘Page’ refers to drawing rather than manufacturer.

I agree fully with Tony and Ian’s identifications for the column fitted grips but, normally with a ‘Tank grip’ the pre-fix FV appears in the part numbering to denote ‘Fighting Vehicle’ if that helps? Could it be an example of an export Hawk/Goshawk perhaps?

GYD

The left one is a tank grip. The next as Ian says is FRS1, the next two are GR3.

The two grooves in the lower grip are in the wrong place for an aircraft grip, I think!

Gok has a great collection of Harrier grips. I’m sure he’ll ID yours no problemo.

A fine selection there AM! Second from left top photo is Sea Harrier FRS1. Third from left is GR3 post mods 1222 and 1493 for Sidewinder. The first grip looks more Hawk than Harrier.