Spitfire, Hurricane or 'other' wheel hubs

Well that’s a very satisfactory outcome. Thanks for all the input. Plans? Already in the hands of the Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation Museum.
Geoff

You got it Mark !!! AH 2061 it is. My Dunlop Lists say this wheel is for:- Spitfire Mk’s 1 and 2. And Hurricane Mk 1. And 10″ wheel size as you said. (Across Tyre Bead seats or Int drum Dia.) Well that has nailed the I.D. Nice ending Foray, great find and rescue,well done m8. Whats the plans for them ? Definitely worth restoring to static.

Bill T.

Wheel specification dimensions always refer to the interface location of the bead of the tyre, both diameter and width.

Mark.

Bill,
Yes, from a farm trailer, that hasn’t moved in years.

Mark,
I think you’ve got it – AH2061 [probably followed by /4] on the second hub. See photo. But, does the diameter still cause a problem? You mentioned 10″. The overall diameter of these is 11 1/2″ measured across the outer face. Perhaps 10″ refers to the main internal drum diameter?

Geoff
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A mis-read perhaps of AH2061 used from Mk I to early Mk IX Spitfire?

Mark

Hi Mark,
Thanks for input, never thought of that. But guess looking closer at the hubs, they certainly could be non split type. (So the tyres would be fitted/removed as per a car wheel) And did the prototype Spits use these AH 2001 wheels too ? ——-Definitely interesting pair of Wheels you have Foray. Looks like I.D’s are almost there then. Amazing what keeps turning up.

Bill T.

They look like early non split 10″ Spitfire wheels to me.

Mark

So they are smaller ,Braked (Pneumatic Bag type most likely, but could be a mechanical operation) Mainwheel. And they are divided(split) type Hubs too. Goodyear of course did make Aircraft Tyres, but that LAND Tyre is a puzzlement. It looks like, as you say, these tyres were fitted at some later date after their Flying life was over. Did these wheels come off a farm trolley of some sort ?. Hubs certainly are interesting and it would be nice to get them split and re-furbished. Usually old wheel hubs like this are seized together ,solid, —–chucking them in an old bath of Molasses/water mix for a month might free off the corrosion enough to get them split. Keep looking .I will.

Bill T.

A couple of shots showing the tyres, one of which shows the inner part of the hub, and yes there is a steel brake drum liner. The liner is certainly not as deep as those in the later ‘four spoke’ Hurricane hub. Markings on the tyres is as follows, which I think excludes aviation products:
Tyre 1 GOODYEAR
LAND TYRE
Made in Great Britain
EO5132
RIB TREAD
7.50-10
FITTING BRITISH 5.00 WHEELS ONLY

Tyre 2 VARNAMO
Made in Sweden
6.P.R.
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Extra thoughts on these hubs. Thought for a minute that the AH 2001 /4 could have been an either or eyther,but managed to get a look at pics of a Battle mainwheel and that is different, bigger too. Also Barracuda is OUT.
The 11-1/2″ Dia size of your Hubs suggests smaller Aircraft anyway, unless these are tailwheels. So keep eliminating. Must admit, the wheel “Spokes” construction are nothing I’ve ever seen before. My hunch is these are Mainwheels and of the Split Variety and do they have steel brake drum liners on other side of wheel ?

Bill T.

Thanks Bill, that’s interesting. It looks like a closer inspection of the AH200series number is needed. It’ll be a couple of days before I can repeat photography. I certainly didn’t think the tyres had the look of ‘aviation’ about them so that’s a surprise.

Hi Foray,
It’s not Spitfire or Hurricane, but is earlier than that almost certainly off a 1930’s Military Biplane. eg:- AH 2006 Wheel hub is for Gauntlet 2 and Gladiator –AH 2004 Fairy Battle — AH2016 off Blackburn ROC and so on. ( These are definitely early Hubs as Gladiator also used later numbered ones. ) My Dunlop lists do not have that number listed so process of elimination might help. The AH Number is for DUNLOP Wheels. Best I can do, but other guys have yet to chime in. Also ,I think that tyre could be original type because of the embossed double radial fit lines you can see just above top hub flange rim. Can you post any more pics of other side of wheel and tyre (Both sides ) and tell us any markings ?

Hope this helps a bit.

Bill T.