Hawker Hurricane Canopy runners/bearings required

Tony, I’m struggling to match all the internal detail in your diagrams with that in the photos #16 & #35. However, only the external dimensions are critical, along with functionality of the unit, so it will be interesting to see how your plan works out. Fingers crossed.

Ok, I have found some simplification that I think might work. I have bought Bearings that are I/D 5mm, O/D 16mm and width 6mm. I have also bought oilite bearings I/D 14mm, O/D 20mm and width 14mm. I shall ream the oilite I/D to accept the ball race. Packers will be used to make sure the bearing is where I want it. The oilite bearing will be filed and worked to look like the original bearing case. I will get the canopy posts made as per drawings/original.

The bearings have cost £30 a set. This way, there is a little more gap which is good to allow for movement.

Bearing drawings – need some simplification!!!

Not easy to photograph but I think these show the inner collar. Not central but offset to one side and concave in profile.
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Yes Geoff, it is a double bearing race, that floats. The interesting thing is that there appears to be a collar within the I/D of the bearing, a la your bottom pic. I will print out drawings today,

I have found a drawing of the original post in my archive so should be a winner. Has roller bearing details too. Seems to indicate a compound bearing

Compound bearing, roller bearing, or two row ball bearings? Does the drawing confirm the photos posted at #16?

Hi, if anyone has a drawing, send it me and I,ll see what I can do. I work in engineering, and order lots of stuff. Put in an enquiry at the same time as a big order and it focus,s people’s minds a bit lol. Regards, Ed

Ps looking for a hurricane instrument panel drawing if anyone can help, ta

I have found a drawing of the original post in my archive so should be a winner. Has roller bearing details too. Seems to indicate a compound bearing

Geoff, I am working off a poor bearing – regarding first choice – should have been “we have choices; (1) find right bearings and make right posts or (2) get correct O/D and width and get bespoke posts made.“

For my canopy, I would opt for option (2) if (1) is no good. I will see how well this works and price it for all. ARCO had fun making posts etc apparently.

Ant, I could do with the drawing of the front adjustable units please….they had to be cut off my canopy this am.

Tony,
The SKF ball bearing ref. 13300 came off a original Hawker drawing. also listed are : Roller A79632 Spindle A79634 Washer A79635 & A79633 . Also shown are alternative bearings A 120634 and A 120635. So were there two types? I also have a drawing for the ajustable front roller.

Ant.

Tony,
Grateful if you could clarify the first choice – should may be maybe? Finding the right posts might be difficult. Hawker Restorations must get the units from somewhere. Choice two looks the more likely?
Is the 0.2” I/D a typo? I might be missing something but can’t see where it is.
Geoff

spent last 2 nights trying to find the sample…..nowhere to be seen!!

Also researching bearings; my bearings on the canopy are so corroded its not true. The I/D is 0.2inch, O/D is 0.803inch (Foray makes is 0.83), width is 0.460inch.

SKF13300 is not the same dimensions.
we have choices; find right bearings and may right posts or get correct O/D and width and get bespoke posts made.

will get a price for all – might be able to be a bulk buy

Thanks Tony,
Put me down for a set, I am working on putting my canopy together as we speak.

Ant.

Hi Ant
I will do some digging and get a price. if anyone wants a set let me know and will get a price. I will also get a quote for the posts

Hi All Hurricane Builders!

The bearings we need are SKF cat No 13300

Thats the original Cat No, they still make 13300, just a case of checking if they are the same.

Hope this helps.

Ant.

I’d be interested in a set of bearings for my Hurricane project. Count me in please.

Ron

I think a two row bearing could be ok. Will get my sample out

A correction to the last paragraph in the post above. The IIG inspection stamp must be HG but with the middle bar of the H clearly missing. HG inspection stamps can be seen on other parts of this fragmented canopy (but including one Gloster stamp!). Is HG another Hawker variant? I am used to HA and HE, but not HG.

In case it helps, and in view of the potential Vampire etc conformity, a few dimensions follow from the photos in post #124:

The roller/wheel has the rather odd dimensions of 0.835″ overall outside diameter and width 0.460″. Its axle has overall length of 0.745″ (which includes the thickness of the securing flange which is about 0.067″).

Rail. ‘Squared’ C profile, external height = 1″, external width = 0.625″, internal width (to accommodate wheel width) = 0.480″

As mentioned before, no sign of makers marks on the wheel units, but both lower canopy rails (to which the wheels are attached) have inspection stamps of IIG in a circle and also not the standard style Hawker/Gloster part numbers. It’s my guess that the two uprights before the G are ‘I’s rather than ‘1’s, but I can’t think of a manufacturer with that coding.