January 12, 2014 at 10:48 pm
Thought the wheels fell off this idea last September.
They need to raise £800,000 within 46 days.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spitfire-heritage-trust
Good luck with that one.
By: Moggy C - 14th April 2014 at 12:29
Nearly there!
Only £799,005 left to reach the £800,000 target.
It’s really gathering momentum.
Moggy
By: Malcolm McKay - 14th April 2014 at 12:12
Is anyone able to confirm a rumour that the owner of Perranporth Airfield has withdrawn his airfield from sale ?
Oh SH*T 😀 That’s torn it.
By: R6915 - 14th April 2014 at 11:58
Is anyone able to confirm a rumour that the owner of Perranporth Airfield has withdrawn his airfield from sale ?
By: Moggy C - 16th January 2014 at 20:55
Please read what has been posted.
There has never been a hint that a fraud has been committed.
The caution about giving money to a body that is not a registered charity is simple good sense and nothing more.
The SHT has stated its aims, and if they appeal to you by all means donate, but do so in full awareness.
All your information about fraud may well be fascinating, but has no relevance here.
Moggy
Moderator
By: R6915 - 16th January 2014 at 20:20
If someone believes that they have reliable evidence that a fraud of any kind has been committed in the UK the first stop now is to use your internet search engine and type in www.actionfraud.police.uk/ . There’s a useful and lengthy check list of fraud examples that fall within the UK legal system. If you find an example on that check list that satisfies you that you are correct in your belief and you have that solid reliable evidence proceed to fill the online form. It goes, I believe, to the City of London Police fraud investigation unit in the first instance. Or, you can, I am told now walk into your local Police Station and ask to see a CID officer.
That’s serious stuff and beware that broadcasting hints or suggestions about anybody or any group in the UK (and no doubt elsewhere in the world as well) can cost you a lot of money. Remember, too, that fraudsters also like to look at Website Forums to see if they can catch someone making an untrue comment and take THEM to Court.
Applogies for spoiling the fun but think long and hard, first.
By: oldgit158 - 16th January 2014 at 11:32
Hi
The way I have read this thread and as there was a past history of doubt I just thought I would add my 2 penny worth, like I said before I am shot down in flames its the way I have read the thread, also from I have been told that until something is proven to be the result of criminal deception through investigation it remains within the realms of civil law.
A thousand apologies if I have got anything wrong.
Regards
Jason with a firmly shut gob
By: DaveF68 - 16th January 2014 at 10:44
HI
Just to clarify on a bit of civil law.
If anybody has any doubt whatso ever that monies are being obtained through deception they are entilted to bring it to the attention of the police as well as the local trading standards.Regards
Jason
Just a clarification, that would be criminal law rather than civil law.
By: Moggy C - 15th January 2014 at 23:44
No. I am sure we are agreed no such allegation has been made
Moggy
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th January 2014 at 23:19
I am not sure that anyone has actually suggested anything of the sort that oldgit158 draws attention to in #31. Have they??
By: steve611 - 15th January 2014 at 23:18
Indeed oldgit158. Neither have I, and for exactly the same reasons.
By: Moggy C - 15th January 2014 at 23:17
Also remember, there is no law against a non-charity seeking donations from the general public as long as it doesn’t portray itself as being a charity. This is not deception, it can be called crowd-funding, seeking investors or begging.
Of course the controls over what that money is eventually used for are stringent for a charity, and completely at the whim of a non-charity.
I haven’t checked back but I don’t think in the latest batch of funds-seeking that the SHT has claimed charitable status
Moggy
By: oldgit158 - 15th January 2014 at 23:16
Steve611
Whilst you are very correct in what you say however all I have done is quote a small amount of civil advice nothing more, I have neither named any person/ body or any organistion.
By: steve611 - 15th January 2014 at 23:11
oldgit158/aka Jason
While you are absolutely right, there is the trivial issue of the cost of defending yourself against allegations of improper conduct should those you suggest might be acting improperly accuse you of slander or libel depending on how you put your case. Decent barristers run to hundreds of pounds per hour, and that doesn’t include the backroom work by the team. Been there, done that.
By: oldgit158 - 15th January 2014 at 22:59
HI
Just to clarify on a bit of civil law.
If anybody has any doubt whatso ever that monies are being obtained through deception they are entilted to bring it to the attention of the police as well as the local trading standards.
Regards
Jason
By: TwinOtter23 - 15th January 2014 at 18:04
Great idea Moggy, do you think that it would wash tomorrow; we have some excavation work to do to fix a water leak – potential visitors on Thursday 16th January please note!! 😉
With NAM it’s Stirling fuselages forming the culvert (JL please don’t panic again!)
By: Moggy C - 15th January 2014 at 13:36
You could always try suggesting that crated airframes are buried under the planned site. At least your groundworks would be done for free then.
Moggy
By: TwinOtter23 - 15th January 2014 at 11:53
Every little helps and I wish that we could persuade a few more to support the scheme – still we mustn’t grumble too much!! 😀
By: Arabella-Cox - 15th January 2014 at 11:07
Well done with that, Howard.
You might just have persuaded me!
By: TwinOtter23 - 15th January 2014 at 10:35
As an alternative people could always offer support to ‘Project Panini’ at NAM! :eagerness:
By: Moggy C - 15th January 2014 at 09:56
OK. Which of you was it?
So we might never know what you didn’t tell us?
At one point in the past you might recall that a thread relating to the SHT was pulled at the Trust’s request / threat.
Whilst the recent change in legislation makes this unlikely to happen again, it is probably a better idea that the thread stays as a caution to those whose enthusiasm for all things Spitfire-related might overcome natural parsimony / wisdom, particularly with reference to the unclear charitable status.
Needless to say the Trust is welcome to clarify these niggling details for us by explaining here.
Moggy