Help to identify type (Photo) please

When you say metal wings -do you mean metal spars and rib ? The German examples certainly were wooden and changed post war under French construction. I am not sure we should be seeing metal skinning unless the French MS types use that on the inboard section.

Yes David, metal spars and ribs instead of wooden ones.

Michael

I did look at your links tony but did not see a lhs cockpit shot !
The trouble with propstrikes photo was that it did not show the ‘balconet’ window ,so to get a positive id we needed a similar angle of view.
Actually when I checked the FAF fleet for those years it could not really have been anything else but one never knows and they might have had a couple of less well known a/c !

rgds baz

If you looked at the links I provided there are better photos

I think this is definitive now !

Great find, bazv

I think you might have wrapped it up ! Many thanks

I was a little sceptical at first David but if you scroll down this link you will find an old luftwaffe pic taken over russia – where you can see a similar sunblind and thin windscreen strut…

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&ved=0CG0QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vintagewings.ca%2FVintageNews%2FStories%2Ftabid%2F116%2FarticleType%2FArticleView%2FarticleId%2F105%2Flanguage%2Fen-CA%2FThe-Lovely-Stork.aspx&ei=Nd90UrTBOafU0QW39YD4Cg&usg=AFQjCNGlcQ8pmX7VrGVYq9tUgxkmo-behg&sig2=cw-SYZ9gBtt0TCkAk51l-g

If that is not a direct link then just google ‘The lovely Stork’ vintage wings of canada.

The difference is – on propstrikes photo we cannot see the downwards view ‘Balconet’ window whereas on the luftwaffe photo we can !

When you say metal wings -do you mean metal spars and rib ? The German examples certainly were wooden and changed post war under French construction. I am not sure we should be seeing metal skinning unless the French MS types use that on the inboard section.

Probably Storch,it is a difficult photo (angle wise) to be certain from but as you say there is the chain and also the thin windscreen strut as a recognition aid…

Here is a video from the back seat of a storch and a similar view can be seen at approx 2.30 + 10.06 (and poss elsewhere)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ez_lfDIAo

And just for some storch porn…here is another one from KW including a lovely ‘ramp’ STOL landing at approx 4.00 ; )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9uBdU0ccE

So do we concur it is a ‘Storch’ and not perhaps a Nord , or other observation type ?

Would it not be the Morane-Saulnier MS.505 Criquet in French service?

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/domeric_barbot/ms_505/

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/jean_thomas_rembert/ms-505_criquet/

AFAIK all MS 50x types were used by the French services. Main difference of the differrent MS designations were the engines used. MS 500´s used original German Argus engines, MS 502´s used French Salmson radials, and MS 505´s used American Jacobs engines. Metal wings were introduced contrary to wooden ones used for Fieseler Fi 156, as were metal props. Minor differences were larger wheels and differently hinged doors. MS 502 as well as MS 505 were called “Criquet”. If it is a MS 502 or MS 505 would mainly depend on the radial engine used.

Michael

Would it not be the Morane-Saulnier MS.505 Criquet in French service?

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/domeric_barbot/ms_505/

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/jean_thomas_rembert/ms-505_criquet/