June 9, 2013 at 8:22 pm
Can anyone help with the following I.D
Obviously a tail unit. I think from either a Vampire or Venom
I have no idea on the markings. The photos show a before and after wipe down with a damp cloth.
Whatever it is was painted with one colour scheme and then over painted again whilst keeping the same lettering codes etc.
Any ideas ??
Many thanks
By: flyingblind - 13th June 2013 at 13:06
Bruce
Thanks for all your help.
It would have been nice to identify the actual aircraft but I’m not sure what I’m going to do with it next as I’m a Spit and Hurricane fan
Many thanks
Paul
By: Bruce - 11th June 2013 at 22:23
Ah-ha – starting to make sense.
12/2 tells us it is from a Venom Mk 2, or possibly Mk 20.
I think its from an NF2A; converted from the earlier style rudder to the later shape – in fact this was the earliest use of the later squared off rudder on the Venom series.
Interesting part.
Antoni – I was the DH Museum ‘expert’ on the Vampire/Venom series, though I don’t claim to know it all by any means! I’m not involved there any longer.
Bruce
By: flyingblind - 11th June 2013 at 19:07
Thanks to all those who replied. I have found the MOD plate in the place suggested.
Never seen so many numbers in my life !!
The info on the plate is as follows
DH112 Venom
Serial No HA1/DHMS 2144
Drg 12/2TR/1A
Mods
214
12/2TR/81A
Iss 7
C25143
DO 716968
Haven’t got a clue what it all means other than its definitely a Venom
Many thanks
By: antoni - 10th June 2013 at 22:47
Perhaps time to ask the de Havilland Aircraft Heritage Centre if they can help you.
By: Discendo Duces - 10th June 2013 at 19:40
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MS= Marshalls ? Just a guess.
DD
By: Bruce - 10th June 2013 at 12:23
There’s usually a mod plate on the bottom of the rudder, adjacent to the sternpost.
DH is de Havilland, MS will be the factory, but it isn’t ringing any bells off hand.
It looks like an earlier rudder which has been converted by plating over the top and rear to give it the new shape. Colour would suggest Sea Venom I think.
Bruce
By: antoni - 9th June 2013 at 22:30
The top line looks like the factory construction number. DH is probably de Havilland. No doubt there is someone on the forum that will soon reveal the identity of the factory. With a bit of luck the serial number can be ascertained from the construction number if there are factory records that record them.
DTD 772 is the Material Specification for the paint used. DTD 772 was introduced in 1949 after complaints that the existing Aluminum finish currently used did not adhere well to high speed jets. It was for use on the external metal surfaces of high speed jets. It was identical in colour to earlier finishes but much more glossier. First called high gloss and then later high speed in its aluminum pigmented form it was commonly called High Speed Silver. Supplied by Docker Brothers it is first thought that it was used on Meteor F.4s. It was a composite cellulose-synthetic paint and because the final finishing coats had a cellulose base it was classified as a cellulose finish hence the letter C underneath. It was a requirement that components were marked with the Material Specification of the paint used with a letter C underneath if it was Cellulose or S underneath if it was synthetic. This was because it was forbidden to overpaint with a different type of paint.
By: flyingblind - 9th June 2013 at 21:41
Any where in particular where I should look for part numbers. I was hoping the lettering would indicate what plane/unit.
As someone has pointed out to me already I have put tailplane/rudder
By: Bruce - 9th June 2013 at 21:12
Strange – the shape appears to be Venom 4/NF3/Sea Venom, but it has been modified from an earlier type.
Any part numbers on it?
By: Trolly Aux - 9th June 2013 at 20:28
Tailplane part I think