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Wellington wreckage found?

So, a mate of mine went for a walk on the beach today and stumbled across some wreckage. The geodetic design obviously points to Wellington. But is that the case or is it from something else? There was more there but he couldn’t carry it. Looked like it had been washed up very recently. The packet of cigarettes are just to give an idea of scale.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/robstuff/IMG_20130609_174412_zps56ae8d72.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/robstuff/IMG_20130609_174421_zpse1cac92e.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/robstuff/IMG_20130609_174426_zpscb8e33af.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f372/robstuff/IMG_20130609_174619_zps717d6c43.jpg

There was also an aircrew boot with a date stamp of 1940 on it which means it was potentially a fatal crash.

Obviously i’m not giving the location away as we now want to see if we can identify the aircraft, especially if it transpires lives were lost.

Thoughts gents?

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By: brataccas - 24th January 2016 at 20:52

also that metal cylinder thing is from a sonobuoy for detecting submarines dropped by a shackleton or nimrod

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By: brataccas - 9th March 2014 at 20:26

Some more parts?

I recognise the 3rd item, its one of those parachute things the army or RAF used at that beach when they did training back in the 70s I find heaps of fuses from those and the container in your photograph it should have a string pulley thing in it

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By: roy9 - 22nd August 2013 at 12:56

part numbers on geodetic…Wellington

Looks like …..W or N or V 299……507 79 662 0r062 VP63 in circle…..40607 / 25…… to me. Off of the piece of geodetic in post15

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By: roy9 - 20th August 2013 at 20:12

ZL 6236 G 174084 7 22 see post 22

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By: Whitley_Project - 20th August 2013 at 19:54

Hi Roy – what are the other numbers on the AW part?

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By: roy9 - 20th August 2013 at 18:50

AW46G in circle ……..the A is very faint

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By: Alan Clark - 20th August 2013 at 18:42

To me the last item in post 18 looks more like the remains of an Anti-G Suit.

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By: Whitley_Project - 20th August 2013 at 18:12

Are these part numbers Wellington

Can’t see any Wellington numbers on those bits. One looks like it might have an ‘AW’ inspectors stamp (the ‘A’ is missing). Worth remembering that at least one Whitley was lost in Spey Bay. If you find any SP or AW prefixed parts they’ll be Whitley.

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By: Trolly Aux - 20th August 2013 at 18:08

W460 = Warwick III

Would make sense with the geodetics

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th August 2013 at 17:49

What’s the item in picture 3 in post 18? It looks like an immersion suit to me. Certainly not from the Wellington wreck, more like it’s been dumped at sea or washed overboard though the dark green colour does indicate it’s an aircrew suit.

Post 20, picture 2 looks like a brake chute pack, or similar. Perhaps that and the immersion suit are u/s equipment from the airfield dumped in the sea in the 1970’s or 80’s.

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By: roy9 - 20th August 2013 at 10:04

Are these part numbers Wellington

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By: Trolly Aux - 9th July 2013 at 18:32

I think picture 2 above is the cover for a portable oxy bottle.

My got Vickers were ahead of their times with a Smart Phone !

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By: roy9 - 9th July 2013 at 11:19

1st item post 18 is bakelite.

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By: Lazy8 - 9th July 2013 at 10:17

I’ve seen very similar items to your first photo in post 18 cast in plastic or bakelite. It could be the base of an old telephone. Never seen one in iron, though.

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By: roy9 - 9th July 2013 at 10:08

Some more bits on the beach are they aircraft related ? Also found 1943 marked spent 20mm shell cases

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By: peppermint_jam - 11th June 2013 at 16:51

Agreed m3bobby. Walk on the beach tonight old boy?

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By: roy9 - 11th June 2013 at 11:37

Some more parts?

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By: Ross_McNeill - 10th June 2013 at 21:25

Hi,

The only way for sea recovered parts is to register them with the Receiver of Wreck within 28 days before you become a looter.

The R of W will then seek the owner for you – you are no longer part of the process so you will be wasting your time in contacting MoD.

Even the RAFM will need to declare the Dornier to the RoW to keep the paperwork straight.

R3151 of one of the losses in the area

The RNLI Record of Service is:
MAY 17TH. – BUCKIE, BANFFSHIRE.
A British aeroplane was reported to have crashed, but nothing was found except wreckage. – Rewards, £2 13s.

At roughly 14:30 hrs the Wellington was seen going into the waters off Spey Bay, 4 miles north north east of Buckie.
Source RNLI Record of Service 1939-46.

Attached is a copy of the Form 1180 for the crash which includes to only really link detail of engine numbers.
Copy right RAF Museum.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]217484[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]217485[/ATTACH]

The No.20 OTU ORB is held at Kew, London AIR 29/664 but this is one page summary for the month and does not list anything for crashes.

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By: peppermint_jam - 10th June 2013 at 13:11

Thanks Ross, I’ll get it registered.

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By: Ross_McNeill - 10th June 2013 at 13:01

All the above advice is for aircraft wrecks on land.

For aircraft parts from the sea a much older procedure is needed to prevent you becoming an illegal looter.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-home/emergencyresponse/mcga-receiverofwreck.htm

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