March 23, 2013 at 8:35 pm
The Special Duties Flt at Christchurch (8-05-40 till 10-11-41) opertated a large and very mixed bag of aircraft.
I am still trying to identify by serial number the following….
Airspeed Consul
Hampden
Defiant
Boston
Harvard
Anson
LR Spitfire
Hereford
Dragon Rapide
Vega Gull
Also, Slingsby Kite c/n 355A built by Slingsby with non metallic control system for RAF. 5.5.40 reported went to the SDF at Christchurch in June 1940 carrying the marks “5”(possibly as it was the 5th glider after the 3 Scott Vikings and the Minimoa?).Can anyone confirm any of this?
The Special Countermeasures FLight operated 3 so far unidentified Ansons in June 1940.
652Sq operated Austers , arr 26-01-44. When did they depart?Any a/c known?
595Sq Spitfires …a detachment arr late 45 from Aberporth ,,,,, exact arrival date? Departure date? Individual aircraft?
H Flt/1AACU Ansons & Battles . Arrival and departure , individual aircraft?
Airspeed carried out a number of Anson ASH Radar conversions in the hangar at Mudeford Lane in early 1945….any identities of these aircraft would be welcome.
Hope someone can fill some of these gaps.
By: G-ASEA - 4th April 2013 at 20:44
I must admit my father and myself. Had come to the same conclusion as Peter. Having only seen photos of camouflaged Kite’s letters on the side. We think it is E or F.
Dave
By: Sedbergh - 4th April 2013 at 20:31
Without wanting to doubt any of the above – are you sure that’s not an ‘E’ or ‘F’ instead of a 5 on the shot of the Kite on tow? The Kites were marked as such after being camouflaged and were definitely letter-coded. ‘E’ was the landed on top of the Sergeants mess at Haddenham.
See Pop Furlongs logbook on my links and files page:
http://www.haddenhamairfieldhistory.co.uk/Pop%20Furlong.pdf
Peter
By: daveg4otu - 31st March 2013 at 20:33
That list ties in with what I already have(dates etc).
Thanks to all who have replied.
By: G-ASEA - 31st March 2013 at 15:46
The only Kirby Kite that I have down in the list used by the SDF Chirstchurch is C/n 355A. The list I have was compiled by M.H.Maufe with the help of Major J.R.Cross of the Museum of Army Flying, up dated with information from N. Rush 1993.
Dave
By: K8B - 31st March 2013 at 14:36
The Slingsby Kirby Kite marked “5” may be BGA 258 (ex Yorkshire Gliding Club), which carried competition number “5” at the 1939 National Contests. . .
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th March 2013 at 22:25
Guessed it might of been one of those two that took it. 🙂
My copy isn’t from the Wright collection at MAF though. Was glued into a notebook I bought in an antique shop years ago.
By: G-ASEA - 29th March 2013 at 22:19
Its one of Lawrence Wright’s photo’s now held at the Museum of Army flying. It was taken either taken at Ringway or Thame ( Haddenham). More likely at Thame, as it has a yellow around the roundel. I think when they where at Ringway they just used the Red, white and blue roundel. When they did the radar trials the Kite and the other gliders was not Camouflaged.
Dave
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th March 2013 at 22:07
OneEightBit …fantastic ….may I use that on the website?
I don’t own the copyright to the photo it’s just one I found in the course of some research. I think Lawrence Wright or John Sproule took it as part of their duties so technically it’s Crown Copyright.
I’ll try and tidy it up and email it to you for “research purposes”. What you do with it after that is up to you.
By: daveg4otu - 29th March 2013 at 11:02
I understand that standard procedure at the time was to inhibit, crate and bury them..
Oh , that’s all right then, we only have to dig up a couple of housing estates,an industrial estate and a couple of schools.We’ll find them, send then to Predanneck and they’ll be in the air in time for the MayDay Bank holiday!
🙂
By: Beermat - 29th March 2013 at 10:16
Your war weary Spits certainly fit the bill as regards the general date …21 Sept would qualify as “late 45”.
Mind , this throws up another question, if these 6 Spits came to Christchurch for disposal,which were they and what happened to them?
I understand that standard procedure at the time was to inhibit, crate and bury them..
By: G-ASEA - 29th March 2013 at 09:32
Kite 1 number 5 at Ringway just before it was camouflaged.
Dave
By: daveg4otu - 29th March 2013 at 08:22
OneEightBit …fantastic ….may I use that on the website?
By: Arabella-Cox - 29th March 2013 at 00:05
I knew I had a picture of Kirby “5” somewhere. Lord knows what else is in the back of my cupboards.
By: daveg4otu - 26th March 2013 at 11:27
Were these actually stated as some of the ones sent to Christchurch or just those SOC at the right time?
By: No.2 A.A.C.U. - 25th March 2013 at 21:41
A quick look has come up with the following: BL539, BM304, BM430 and BM581all of which S.O.C. from 595 Sqn on or around September 1945.
Regards,
Tim
By: daveg4otu - 25th March 2013 at 21:17
Tim, all I have is what you see…and that info came IIRC from the RAF Squadrons book years ago.Can’t check that as that book along with many others is buried somewhere among piles of stuff in the loft.
Your war weary Spits certainly fit the bill as regards the general date …21 Sept would qualify as “late 45”.
Mind , this throws up another question, if these 6 Spits came to Christchurch for disposal,which were they and what happened to them?
By: No.2 A.A.C.U. - 25th March 2013 at 20:45
No.595AAC Squadron
I have checked the ORB and can find no reference to a detachment at Christchurch, however the base is certainly mentioned. On 30.06.45 595 received a number of rather war weary Mk.V’s to provide a ‘faster more authentic’ target, these were soon replaced (in weeks) by Mk.IX’s and Mk.XII’s. Now on the 21.09.45 three Spitfires were flown to Christchurch for disposal with a further three following the next day. Could these be the mystery detachment? However if you have evidence of the Squadron operating out of Christchurch I would be interested in any details.
Somewhere I also have details on H Flight but this may take some time to dig out :rolleyes:
Regards,
Tim
By: Arabella-Cox - 25th March 2013 at 16:33
As 652 Squadron operated Auster AOP aircraft almost any field would do whilst preparing for D-Day. The Austers were also conducting shoots with 3 Canadian Division at Studland Bay during this time.
By: daveg4otu - 25th March 2013 at 16:24
I think you mean Rhinefield House.
The nearest area with a good surface (compact ) is New Park on the west side of Clay Hill- It is where the New Forest Show is held .
The one at your co-ords is(or was when I was kid) a bit on the squashy side.
Whatever , I was never able to find anyone who remembered any such activity….but …doesn’t mean it didn’t happen
By: Resmoroh - 25th March 2013 at 13:43
Dave,
You could get 3000 ft (East/West) at 50.822645° -1.605253° (just west of Brockenhurst) – and it’s as flat as a pancake!! That is always assuming that that field was not full of guns, tanks, ammo, stores, etc, in the run-up to D-Day!
That Posh Pub & Health Spa off the Rhinefield Road may bear some investigation. If it was the HQ, in WW2, of some UK/US Unit/Formation, and The Boss was a 1, or 2, Star then they did like to have their own airborne taxi-services didn’t they?
HTH
Resmoroh