Are these Heinkel 111 bits?

The section I have has been confirmed by some nice chaps on WIX as being B24.

The B24 appeared to use the same square section corrugation.

http://ipmsroscoeturner.org/walkarounds/B-24%20Liberator/b24interior.html

http://b24australia.org.au/fileadmin/filemount/news/1212_Ribbed_floor_Rear.jpg

The handle in my photo is definitely Halifax, MkVIII, but which turret is not known.
Pity about the Hurricane bits, I am on the lookout for some original stainless steel fuselage bracing wires, bent or straight. Often the kind of thing that is not retained after an excavation.

Thanks Foray

That might make it from a Boulton Paul turret then.

The Hurricane bits are mangled wireless components – probably not useful!

Regards
Elliott

Following #8, this is a picture from a Hailfax, believed turret handle.

Brian, the rivets on your example dont look like German ones; more American.

Bruce

Bother – another few hours on the internet beckons…

Thanks Bruce.:D

There were a number of different styles of anchor nut used by the Germans. That one doesnt resemble any I have seen, but nor does it look exactly like a British one either. Any way you can check the thread?

Brian, the rivets on your example dont look like German ones; more American.

Bruce

…. they came with some Hurricane/B-17/Warwick bits.

The first picture looks like the door handle to a rear turret – type?
Could/would you divulge what the Hurricane parts are?

As a measure of weight saving it was (and still is, with metal light aircraft) used to corrugate flat sections of sheet to increase stiffness and load bearing capacity (i.e., floors, spar webs) with little increase in weight and zero fabrication.

Whilst having seen the example I quoted with the Whitley floor/bomb bay, I think it was common practice with many aircraft manufacturers of all nations to do it.

Basically, an established technique and not particular to any nation or builder.

I still think it is British part, though. I have some new captive stiffnuts exactly like the one on the picture.

Anon.

Elliot I have a similar looking section that I bought in Germany a couple of years ago. The seller assured me that it had been verified by experts and came from a known Ju52 crash site.

Despite looking for hours at Ju52 wreck parts I could not see the same profile anywhere. The Ju52 profile is round with crimped ends..

It is definitely golden anodised and looks distinctly German..

Was there much actual Spit? It sounded like there might be a radio hatch.

What do you think Ian :p

The anchor nut does look distinctly British – were German ones anodised?

Thanks Anon – you may be right, they could be from something else as they came with some Hurricane/B-17/Warwick bits. There was a Heinkel part in there too. The Heinkel was lost at night during the Battle of Britain so may have been black I suppose…?

I usually recognise Whitley parts at a 1000 yards and these are not Whitley. You are right about the corrugations, but they were used in a variety of other aircraft and I seem to remember Heinkels also having some parts of similar construction.

There’s a captive nut on the corrugated parts – I have never seen a German one so have no idea how they compare to British ones!

I’m with Anon on the not German id. The corrugated piece looks Defiant to me. are these from the pile of ‘Spitfire’ bits on evilbay? Was there much actual Spit? It sounded like there might be a radio hatch.

Heinkel?

To me they look too badly made for a Jerry a/c. Also, the black doesn’t fit.

That corrugated bit, isn’t that the section the floor of the Whitley was made from?

I remember, with a team, dragging a large section of bomb bay from a Whitley off a Welsh mountainside many years ago (for the Midland Warplane Museum, all legit) and it was constructed like that.

Anon.