I took a trip to St Neots last Saturday to visit the intrepid group who are building a Stirling forward fuselage & cockpit there, and mightily impressed was I as to the dedication and quality of the workmanship. This was all thanks to 12jaguar (John) on here.
Whilst there I picked up a copy of ‘The Stirling Story’ by Michael J. Bowyer for a small donation.
The book mentions a crash of a Stirling Mk.I of 7 Sqn. at the Norfolk village of Newton Flotman on the morning of 15th July 1941, following a raid on Hannover. My other stuff relating to No.3 Group is currently elsewhere but I’m just wondering if anyone present can give me aircraft serial, list of crew (There was a Keith Deyell on board) and any other information on where the crash site was, and if it has subsequently been investigated, dug, explored etc?
By: Davenport82 - 14th August 2013 at 11:57
Just an update, a chap helping me with my research spoke to the ex game keeper of an estate where the plane came down and he said that a Stirling wheel was in a farm building for 30 years after the war! It was then taken to Flixton Aviation museum. Now they only have a complete wheel of a Lanc, but said in the late 70s they had to ‘get rid’ of alot of tyres for Health and Safety reasons.
Shame looks like the tyre found of my grandads Stirling quite litterally went up in smoke!
Ian
By: critter592 - 4th February 2013 at 02:20
There is a good photo of a line-up of 7 Squadron Stirlings in David Earl’s book, Hell on High Ground 2.
Among them is N6075, MG-A.
Later, while attached to the conversion flight with 101 Squadron, (and coded SR-W3), she crashed at Merryton Low, near Leek.
By: Davenport82 - 3rd February 2013 at 14:51
Stirling Bomber Crash Newton Flotman July 1941
Hello all,
Has there been any other pictures of Squadron 7 Stirlings, crews etc in anyones possession I would be interested to see them.
Many thanks Martin for the Direct message about the bits you have.
Fingers crossed more info will come my way regarding this crash site.
Regards
Ian
By: Davenport82 - 25th January 2013 at 13:40
Stirling Bomber crash N6022 MG D
John,
I am aware that MG D 6022 was John Cruikshank’s (Pilot) Stirling, he was on leave when Witt along with the crew including my grandfather used it on the Hannover raid. Apparently they joked afterwards how Dennis Witt ‘pranged’ his Stirling!!
Thanks for the pictures, if you have anymore Squadron 7 related around about 1941 I will be grateful.
Regards
Ian
By: hindenburg - 24th January 2013 at 18:54
Superb!! Many thanks John.
By: Davenport82 - 24th January 2013 at 15:08
Stirling Bomber Crash Newton Flotman 1941
Hello all,
Yes thanks for this picture I can see Dennis Witt and Keith Deyell but my grandfather is not in this picture, this is an earlier 1941 pic pre may 1941. Thanks for posting all the same.
Have you any other pictures of crews from 1941 7squadron?
Ian
By: 12jaguar - 24th January 2013 at 11:33
Hi Ian
As promised here’s the crew photo. I’ve been warned by our Chairman that this may not include all those who were onboard N6022 when she crashed.
John
By: Davenport82 - 24th January 2013 at 08:57
Stirling crash Newton Flotman Norfolk 1941
Thanks yes I have obtained their number and I am going to give them a call.
Many thanks Hindenburg…
Ian
By: hindenburg - 23rd January 2013 at 13:06
Have you tried Parham and Thorpe Abbots museums Ian?
,I`m sure I`ve seen a display relating to your aircraft when touring the East Angian Museums in the early nineties.
By: Davenport82 - 23rd January 2013 at 12:03
Stirling Crash site Newton Flotman 1941
Guys,
Thanks ever so much for your replies,
Martin once you have had a sort through I would love those bits many thanks!!! I look forward to when you get an opportunity to have a sort through.
I wonder where some of the bits went to after Flixton, shame I wouldnt really know where to start to look for other bits now could be anywhere.
Ian
By: hindenburg - 23rd January 2013 at 10:22
Ian.
I presume you have seen this?
http://harringtonmuseum.org.uk/DZ%20Vol%203%20issue%201%20June%202005.pdf
There is a mention of N6022 along with the other 7 Sqd Stirlings on the Hanover raid. Page 9
Moggy
I posted that on the previous page Moggy…and yours was the very next comment..
By: hindenburg - 23rd January 2013 at 10:16
The bits are nothing to get excited about,small remnants,as I`ve said the type of stuff thats ploughed up rather than dug out.I `ll have a look later for you,too many different aircraft to sort through to find them..but you are welcome to them when I find them :).
By: Davenport82 - 23rd January 2013 at 08:35
Stirling Bomber crash July 1941 Newton Flotman
Moggy,
Yes thanks for this I was aware of the description but not in this document, many thanks it will add to my collection / research of ‘bits’.
I am really hopeful of bits of the aircraft, pictures and anyone that remembers the crash in that village, anything and everything will help.
Hindenburg says he has bits of that crash site, I would really like to obtain some pieces my family would be so grateful!!
Ian
By: Moggy C - 23rd January 2013 at 07:51
Ian.
I presume you have seen this?
http://harringtonmuseum.org.uk/DZ%20Vol%203%20issue%201%20June%202005.pdf
There is a mention of N6022 along with the other 7 Sqd Stirlings on the Hanover raid. Page 9
Moggy
By: Davenport82 - 22nd January 2013 at 23:37
stirling crash newton flotman 1941
No hoping you do!! have some bits and a picture of crew would make display look complete if you could!! marvelous!!
Hi Martin is this something you can help me with, I would love to obtain some relics from my grandfathers Stirling. I have sent you some private messages relating to it. Obviously this is all close to my heart due to the link I have with this Stirling. I am aware a bag of bits going to flixton aviation museum back in the 1970s but this was just lost in time. I would be interested to know what bits from my grandfathers crash site you have.
Kind regards Ian
By: 12jaguar - 22nd January 2013 at 21:15
Alles klar:)
Have reminded Pino to send me it
John
By: hindenburg - 22nd January 2013 at 20:55
No hoping you do!! have some bits and a picture of crew would make display look complete if you could!! marvelous!!
By: 12jaguar - 22nd January 2013 at 19:33
Will you still post the picture???::diablo:
Why wouldn’t I?:confused:
By: hindenburg - 22nd January 2013 at 19:17
No relics from that aircraft unfortunately, although we have got a photo of the crew which I’ll post on here when it’s been sent to me
John
Will you still post the picture???::diablo:
By: Davenport82 - 22nd January 2013 at 09:50
Stirling crash site Newton Flotman Norfolk 1941
Hello Andy,
Fingers crossed people can help me further with more information and possible relic’s and photos,
I am so pleased!!!
Ian
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