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Douglas C-133 Cargomaster Vs. Short C.1 Belfast

G’day gents

I am trying to ascertain what was the superior aircraft design out of the Douglas C-133 Cargomaster and the Short C.1 Belfast heavy-lift transport/cargo aircraft.

I am not 100% certain, but I believe the C-133 could carry a heavier overall payload, but the C.1 Belfast could carry a larger and bulkier payload!

Does anyone have the internal measurements of each designs cargo hull?

P.S. Can I ask that we please keep to the facts, rather than nationalistic rhetoric

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By: Discendo Duces - 19th November 2012 at 20:58

For sound, out of ten, the Cargomaster was an 11 and the Belfast a 3. When a Cargomaster was heading towards you on airways you could hear it for what seemed like ages, plenty of time to go and position yourself in the garden to get the full affect.
I think the An-22 came a close second.

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Thanks for the endorsement!:)

Particularly impressive on a dark winter’s night with no other background sound….that drone filled the sky, getting louder and louder.

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By: Graham Boak - 19th November 2012 at 11:19

Issues? So did the Belfast, and just about every aircraft.

However, the numbers are in the respective Putnams.
The Belfast can lift 77,000lb, the C-133 101,000lb.
So to answer the original points raised, the C-133 can hold more bulk and can lift a greater load.
I suspect the two were closer on normal operations, away from the maximums, but don’t have full payload-range diagrams. The max range of the Belfast was 5,200miles, load unspecified. The C-133 could carry 52,000lb over 4000miles.

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By: pogno - 19th November 2012 at 07:40

Oh I don’t know. The Belfast had a pretty distinctive sound.

For sound, out of ten, the Cargomaster was an 11 and the Belfast a 3. When a Cargomaster was heading towards you on airways you could hear it for what seemed like ages, plenty of time to go and position yourself in the garden to get the full affect.
I think the An-22 came a close second.

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By: J Boyle - 19th November 2012 at 00:28

However, the C-133 had issues.

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By: Graham Boak - 18th November 2012 at 22:24

Payload? Range? Numbers anyone? The volume is an indication. Despite being a Brit, I think the C-133 has the edge. It is much more than just a lengthened Herc, despite the appearance.

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By: AlanR - 18th November 2012 at 21:40

Oh I don’t know. The Belfast had a pretty distinctive sound.

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By: Discendo Duces - 18th November 2012 at 18:25

For what it’s worth, the sound that the C-133 made was more impressive!

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By: AlanR - 18th November 2012 at 10:16

The C-133 cargo hold was 86’10” long and about 20 feet in diameter.

The Belfast had a hold length of 64 ft. with a diameter of 14 ft .

According to what I read after a quick Google

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