Arco buchon

I also enjoyed “Septic’s” article in Classic Aircraft, highly recommended. 😎

Roobarb

I never even realised! 😮

Sorry, Septic!

Great article, though. We need a serious Buchon pornography thread….

There is indeed an article on the painting of the Buchon in its B of B film colours in Aeroplane magazine at the moment and with some previously unpublished photographs. I can tell you the colours are multi national. The “Blue” is actually an FS grey, The Yellow and dark Green are German, the light Green is British and the Blue on the badge is French! The black and white are naturally to be found worldwide! 😉

I hope anyone reading the article enjoys it, even if it has been updated and re-cycled, I enjoyed writing it. I also enjoyed “Septic’s” article in Classic Aircraft, highly recommended. 😎

Roobarb

Thanks for the info 🙂

Thanks for that, I can never remember what the reggy of this Buchon is (I used to think it was D-HDME at one point, too!)

That shot would be around the time of Piece of Cake certainly. According to the Classic Aircraft article, the aircraft was entirely stock when restored, as it had never been used in Battle of Britain at all.

Would make an interesting project for a model….

@DazDaMan: Regarding registration there seems to be somewhere falsely written D-HEHD as well. But as the German registration system is quite straight, neither D-HDME nor D-HEHD are a possible registration code for an airplane, as D-HXXX is reserved for helicopters only. Single engine aircraft up to 2 metric tons MTOW have to have D-EXXX as registration, wheras single engine aircraft over 2 up to 5.7 tons have to have registered D-FXXX. All aircraft over 5.7 tons up to 14 tons have to have D-CXXX (X for any letter).

(For the interested ones: 2010 there were only 153 planes D-FXXX registered)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration

Michael

P.S.: The Seafury TT 20 used in Germany as target tugs were registered D-CXXX, because due to the target towing equipment (generator, winch, target, cable etc.) MTOW was over 5.7 tons, without it (prior to installation) they were registered as D-FXXX. They had civil registration, as they were not operated by the Luftwaffe, but by a civil company.

The registration of EADS / Messerschmitt Flugmuseum´s Bf 109 G-10 is not D-FEHD but D-FDME. The original Buchon when owned by Hans Dittes was registered as D-FEHD. After conversion to G-10, it was newly registered as D-FDME in 1996. First flight with DB was performed by Mark Hanna at Mannheim in 1995. Dittes sold D-FDME in 2001, EADS / Messerschmitt is the owner since.
They also own D-FMBB and D-FWME (bought from a private owner’s association{is that the correct translation? looks somewhat peculiar}).

http://www.eads.com/eads/germany/de/unser-unternehmen/unser-erbe.html?openIframeBox=true

http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/

search for: H.A. 1112 M-1-L (serial no.) 213 (current marking) gelbe 3 (service No.) C.4K-141

Michael

I shot this photo of D-FEHD at an airshow in Germany just before filming started for “A Piece Of Cake” IIRC. The man on the wing with blue cap is the pilot, Walter Eichhorn. He did most of the flying of Buchon´s and 109´s in Germany.

http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/michaelmlerg/

Thanks for that, I can never remember what the reggy of this Buchon is (I used to think it was D-HDME at one point, too!)

That shot would be around the time of Piece of Cake certainly. According to the Classic Aircraft article, the aircraft was entirely stock when restored, as it had never been used in Battle of Britain at all.

Would make an interesting project for a model….

Nice shot, good to see Buchons making bit of a comeback. Must be time for a ‘Post your Buchons’ thread.

It’s a pity they haven’t been overly popular over the years, but are kinda seeing a renaissance in more recent years.

There’s six current flyers:

Merlin-engined:
G-BWUE
G-AWHE
D-FMVS

DB-engined:
D-FMBB (‘109G-6)
D-FEHD (‘109G-10)
D-FWME (‘109G-4)

I must say, despite the ‘109’s combat record etc, I simply prefer the Buchon!!

The registration of EADS / Messerschmitt Flugmuseum´s Bf 109 G-10 is not D-FEHD but D-FDME. The original Buchon when owned by Hans Dittes was registered as D-FEHD. After conversion to G-10, it was newly registered as D-FDME in 1996. First flight with DB was performed by Mark Hanna at Mannheim in 1995. Dittes sold D-FDME in 2001, EADS / Messerschmitt is the owner since.
They also own D-FMBB and D-FWME (bought from a private owner’s association{is that the correct translation? looks somewhat peculiar}).

http://www.eads.com/eads/germany/de/unser-unternehmen/unser-erbe.html?openIframeBox=true

http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/

search for: H.A. 1112 M-1-L (serial no.) 213 (current marking) gelbe 3 (service No.) C.4K-141

Michael

I shot this photo of D-FEHD at an airshow in Germany just before filming started for “A Piece Of Cake” IIRC. The man on the wing with blue cap is the pilot, Walter Eichhorn. He did most of the flying of Buchon´s and 109´s in Germany.

http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/michaelmlerg/

Don,t forget that the 109 held a closed circuit speed record prewar although i think it was a specially prepared aircraft and not a production one.

A semi-interesting quiz question I sometimes pose at our model club……

“Which aircraft made its first flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Kestrel and its last flight on the power of a Rolls Royce Merlin”?

OK – ‘last flight’ is stretching it a bit……… but most people don’t even think of a foreign design – and are surprised by the answer….. Messerschmitt 109.

Ken

To me they are better looking than their german relative but still retain the rugged fighter look of the 109.Just shows how good the original 109g series was.

It’s a pity they haven’t been overly popular over the years, but are kinda seeing a renaissance in more recent years.

There’s six current flyers:

Merlin-engined:
G-BWUE
G-AWHE
D-FMVS

DB-engined:
D-FMBB (‘109G-6)
D-FEHD (‘109G-10)
D-FWME (‘109G-4)

I must say, despite the ‘109’s combat record etc, I simply prefer the Buchon!!

Must admit they are one of the most under rated aircraft but have one of the best aviation family lines.My opinion of course!

There is an article in the latest Classic Aircraft magazine on flying the ARCo Buchon, along with a nice article on the history of the type and a few of the surviving aircraft. Well worth it for the Buchon porn! 😀

I seem to recall the struts were only cosmetic, and they don’t actually move with the tailplane as they would do on the ‘109E (since you trim the whole horizontal tail surface rather than just a trim tab) – there are shots of the film Buchons with struts missing as they simply fell off in flight!

When I painted some of my Buchon models, I just used Humbrol black-green and olive drab, with light aircraft blue for the undersides. Looked good enough to me!

Maybe Roobarb could let you have a 25ml tin of the paint.:)

I have decided to mix the paint using pics out of the mag and off the net.Looks like its not accurate rlm colour.

I believe they were left off because they weren’t really strongly attached?

I have just read the article in The Aeroplane about painting the Buchon to match its livery in the BoB film – and I noticed that in the film it had bracing struts under the tailplane – as per a Bf-109E.

Photos of the ‘restored’ Buchon in the magazine show the struts missing.

Were they just fitted for the film to make it more authentic looking – and its an oversight on the restoration???

Curious…..

Ken

Maybe Roobarb could let you have a 25ml tin of the paint.:)

Yes. There’s an article on it in the current issue of Aeroplane that might help