March 2, 2012 at 6:20 am
I think this plane is a French PV-1 Ventura, Saigon 1947. Or a Lodestar or Hudson?
Can anyone id the type? Thank you for any assistance.
By: happymeal - 2nd March 2012 at 15:44
Sure, no 19 !
By: l.garey - 2nd March 2012 at 15:41
I still think the last digit is “5”. Whatever, there seems to be no “19”!
N’est-ce pas?
By: happymeal - 2nd March 2012 at 15:35
Litterature in French always mention “18 juin 1940” as the nickname… but worth some more researching. The essential date still being june 18th 1940. That plane was accepted by the French Navy july 31st, 1945.
By: l.garey - 2nd March 2012 at 15:29
Here is another of “18 juin”. This poster also claims it is “1940”, but I think I can read “45”

By: l.garey - 2nd March 2012 at 15:23
Yes, but I seem to read, by the Cross of Lorraine on the nose, “18 juin 45”, which was the date of the celebration of De Gaulle’s 1940 speech and was the first official ceremony in Paris in the presence of le grand Charles.
By: happymeal - 2nd March 2012 at 15:16
I have to correct the above, and myself by the same occasion; Nickname of the plan is “18 juin 1940”, date of the famous Charles de Gaulle speech on BBC radio.
By: l.garey - 2nd March 2012 at 15:12
Here is a photo of “18 juin 45”.

http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/ventura/carriere-individuelle.htm
By: happymeal - 2nd March 2012 at 13:58
France received only a few C-60 during war time. After wartime, the French Navy bought 6 PV-2 “Harpoon” but they were delivered in 1953.
Owing to the markings, it sure look like it is a french plane, and it also sure looks like a Ventura. The one french ventura that went to Indichina indeed.
As only one French Ventura served in Indochina in 1946 and 1947, as the liaison plane affected to Amiral Thierry d’Argenlieu, Haut-Commissaire of Indochina and commanding officer of the French Navy for the Far East. It was a plane from Escadrille 6FE transfered to 8FE in Indochina. Its number was 29819, it was christened “Le 18 juin” and it was based in Saïgon-Tan Son Nhut.
By: longshot - 2nd March 2012 at 13:56
The rear fuselage comes to more of a point than on the Lodestar…presumably Amiral d’Argenlieu’s liaison PV-1 ?
By: John Aeroclub - 2nd March 2012 at 12:27
It looks to have the glazing under the aft fuselage making it a Ventura.
John
By: pogno - 2nd March 2012 at 07:36
It looks like a Lockheed 18 Lodestar to me.
Richard