October 7, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Posted on one of my modelling forums I frequent and copied over
This may clarify the issue somewhat.
Good News for the future of air racing.
Our new crew member, Matt Jackson, is not only a race pilot, aircraft
business owner and aircraft owner (he also takes care of Tom Cruises P-51)
but he is also the VP of the Unlimited Racing Class and head of the Safety
Committee.We had a long talk about the Reno crash on the way to Mojave today.
Matt believes the cause of the crash was due to The Galloping Ghost having a
CG too close to the aft limit which resulted in pitch instability. There are
instructions on the P-51 regarding no combat missions with the aft fuel tank
full resulting in an aft CG problem. Instructions specify to empty the aft
fuel tank first in flight.During qualifying Matt watched Galloping Ghost from inside the cockpit of
Furias and could not believe how much trouble Leeward was having in keeping
the Ghost in a stable pattern around the course.Since Leeward lives in Florida and the Galloping Ghost was modified for
racing in Calif., when Leeward picked up the Ghost for the Reno races at the
last minute, a complete flight test program had not been done based on
available information.There is a video of the entire last lap of the Ghost before the crash which
Matt showed me. As Leeward was coming around pylon #8 at about 480 mph after
passing Rare Bear, he hit turbulence which pitched his left wing down,
Leeward corrected with hard right rudder and aileron. Just as the aircraft
was straightening out, he hit a second mountain of turbulence which caused
the tail to ‘dig in’ resulting in a 10+ G climb rendering Leeward
unconscious instantly and resulted in the tail wheel falling out. (broken
tail wheel support structure was found on the course). As the Ghost shot
upward the LH aileron trim tab broke loose. This can be heard on the tape,
so the trim tab did not cause the accident.Since the Ghost was racing at 480 mph with full right rudder and the stick
full right, this is where everything stayed when Leeward blacked out.
Cockpit camera film that was salvaged from the wreck shows Leeward slumped
over to the right in the cockpit. As a result, the Ghost climbed up and to
the right, rolled over on her back and then headed for the box seats. Most
in the box seats never saw it coming because it came in from behind them.Matt has had long conversations with the NTSB who call the accident a
‘fluke’. They are not going to recommend canceling future races. He has also
talked to the insurance companies covering the races for Reno and they also
say they are not going to cancel their coverage of future races. Now we wait
for the FAA to make a decision.Ironically, Matt bought box seats tickets for his good friends who stayed
with him for a few days before the races. They were the husband and wife who
were killed.
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By: G-ASEA - 8th October 2011 at 21:40
Its strange! I have been looking at my photos of Galloping Ghost before and after the crash. But I still can’t watch the video’s of it crashing. Saw them on the US news. But dont want to see it again. I feel for the injured people and families of those that died. I felt bad years ago when our Russavia Rapide swung on take take off, but know one was hurt. But not like this. I am intrested in what happend, but know we must wait for the NTSB report.
Dave
By: JDK - 7th October 2011 at 23:35
Tony – I was clear in thanking you for posting it; however thanks aside, it remains hearsay, and hearsay with self-evident errors in it, so of limited use at best.
PS – So please don’t shoot the messenger, even if that’s you! 😀
Regards
By: TonyT - 7th October 2011 at 23:14
Unfortunately posted it on the fly at work and didn’t have time to search back for the thread due to having 3 sick aircraft to fix on my own for the weekend and a Arc Renewal to issue at the time of posting…. next time I won’t bother.
By: Peter D Evans - 7th October 2011 at 22:18
Are we going to get a new thread on this accident every time somebody has an opinion? As Bruce quite correctly says, the only opinion worth any sort of discussion and debate is that from the NTSB… Thoughts and comments from anybody else, irrespective of their expertise in this subject, do nothing more than keep muddying the waters…
Cheers
Pete
By: pagen01 - 7th October 2011 at 22:06
If you mean TonyT, he knows his stuff.
The content of the conversation seems full of holes to me however, like MarkV I wonder if it was for posting.
By: ZRX61 - 7th October 2011 at 18:30
Sounds OK, except the pictures clearly show an elevator trim tab detaching, not an aileron
The guy who posted it is a modeller.. probably doesn’t know his ass from this aileron 😉
By: Mark V - 7th October 2011 at 17:30
Isnt this the second statement that Mr Jackson has released regarding the cause of the accident?
Is it even a ‘statement’ – the opening paragraph refers to a conversation held during a car journey between Mr Jackson and the (anonymous) writer…. was it actually intended for ‘public’ consumption?
By: Yak 11 Fan - 7th October 2011 at 17:05
Isnt this the second statement that Mr Jackson has released regarding the cause of the accident? The first IIRC blamed the pilot for changing the trim during the race (or something along those lines) I think I will wait for the official report.
By: Bruce - 7th October 2011 at 13:28
This is ‘another point of view’. Its not definitive by any means, and we will as James says, we need to wait for the NTSB to report in full.
Bruce
By: crowfield - 7th October 2011 at 13:14
Sounds OK, except the pictures clearly show an elevator trim tab detaching, not an aileron
By: JDK - 7th October 2011 at 13:08
It comes somewhere between hysterical media over-reaction on the one hand, and an authoritative statement on the other, closer to the latter. Sadly it is not the latter, so we still will have to wait and see.
There are several items in the account that cannot be correct if read literally or as an official statement would be; whether changes introduced by the person relaying or original comments can’t be discerned, of course.
Thanks for sharing, and in a new thread, though.