March 11, 2011 at 9:32 am
A sad day…
By: buccaneernut - 14th March 2011 at 19:55
I see your point PAGAN01, ZA111 would be better in Berkshire, however as long as she is preserved i do not mind. i will make some enqs this week and see if there is anynews as to where these two are destined to go.
By: pagen01 - 13th March 2011 at 20:19
In an ideal world ZA111 would be preserved at Berkshire Aviation museum as very importantt in Handley Page history, and XX481 to FAAM, but this ain’t an ideal world!
By: TwinOtter23 - 13th March 2011 at 20:17
There’s a picture of XX492 arriving at NAM by road in December 2004 in the Collecting Aeroplane Album here!
By: Jagx204 - 13th March 2011 at 20:12
XX488 suffered ‘death by JCB’ at Culdrose in January. Also one is apparently destined to be retained by the Fire section on the airfield, so limits which one is likely to be preserved (hopefully ZA111)
By: buccaneernut - 13th March 2011 at 18:20
Lets hope so. Just a bit more information for you, the last 9 jetstream were all Handley Page Built, 7 were completed by SA.
Except for 2 of them, 6 have been put up for tender these being XX476, XX478, XX481, XX484,XX486 and XX487. ZA110 and ZA111 have not been mentioned and no mention of the spares ship XX488. The MOD is stating that the 6 machines will not have engines, so would preclude delivery by Air!
Hopefully ZA111 might end up at Yeovilton
By: pagen01 - 13th March 2011 at 17:35
Buccaneernut, that is brilliant information and was just what I was looking for, lets hope it will be preserved, must be worth dropping a note to any interested museums or MoD DA?
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th March 2011 at 00:25
NICKB
This Jetstream was previousley G-AXFV prior to joing the RN, as stated flew in civil guise on the 24/4/69 therefore making it one of the oldest jetstreams still flying. She was converted to T2 use after civilian use, If you put the civilian ID into Google images there is a picture of her at Farnborough in 1972 and also a pic at Church Fenton in 1993 in her military guise
Hope this clears things up
Great – thanks, it wasn’t clear from your initial posting.
NickB
By: buccaneernut - 12th March 2011 at 20:37
Sorry but this doesn’t make sense! Did you mean it is/was the last Jetstream T2 (serial wise chronologically) to serve in the RN? It was first flown on the 23/12/81 according to ukserials.
NICKB
This Jetstream was previousley G-AXFV prior to joing the RN, as stated flew in civil guise on the 24/4/69 therefore making it one of the oldest jetstreams still flying. She was converted to T2 use after civilian use, If you put the civilian ID into Google images there is a picture of her at Farnborough in 1972 and also a pic at Church Fenton in 1993 in her military guise
Hope this clears things up
By: Arabella-Cox - 12th March 2011 at 19:15
One of the last Jetstreams is ZA111 HP Cons number 211 and is the earliest jetstream flying. First flight for her was on the 24/4/69, This aricraft was the last HP built aircraft to be delivered on the 5/10/82.
Hope this one is preserved as a lasting legacy to Handley Page
Sorry but this doesn’t make sense! Did you mean it is/was the last Jetstream T2 (serial wise chronologically) to serve in the RN? It was first flown on the 23/12/81 according to ukserials.
By: buccaneernut - 12th March 2011 at 17:36
Not sure… there are certainly some original HP built parts in them…
Definitely the last HP design in UK military service though…
🙁
Zeb
One of the last Jetstreams is ZA111 HP Cons number 211 and is the earliest jetstream flying. First flight for her was on the 24/4/69, This aricraft was the last HP built aircraft to be delivered on the 5/10/82.
Hope this one is preserved as a lasting legacy to Handley Page
By: Peter - 11th March 2011 at 19:58
Couple of Jetstream clips not from today from Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIBFjpHMvQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW5CS6VFRK8
By: Arabella-Cox - 11th March 2011 at 19:49
There were six of them in a nice tidy formation today. It would be good to see some pictures, it is not often nowadays when you see six aeroplanes that aren’t red arrows, that close together.
By: alertken - 11th March 2011 at 12:38
Minister of Technology A.W-Benn put £1.25Mn. of our money into HP in 1966 as Launch Aid for HP.137 (do ignore all those whingers about Treasury “short-changing” UK Aero -the industry was always treated hugely preferentially). As F-111K offset, US DoD then optioned 300 as C-10A, Garrett vice TM. That option lapsed 16/1/68 with UK’s deletion of F-111K. If UK had taken its 50 F-111K, Radlett, not Prestwick, might today be an Aerostructures entity. Scottish Avn, wings supplier, was given the type and did well with it. DoD bought various King Airs instead…and so, ultimately, did we. Product Development/Support, better at Beech/Raytheon than in UK, as ever.
By: Dr Strangelove - 11th March 2011 at 12:38
They did a flypast at St Mawgan just before lunch, sorry to see them go.
By: Zebedee - 11th March 2011 at 12:34
Being a bit fussy here, but I’m prety sure that Westland referred to it’s helicopters as S-55, S-58 etc for the civil market, same as S-51 / Dragonfly etc.
Well the civvie Wessex was the Wessex Series 60…
Zeb
By: Zebedee - 11th March 2011 at 12:31
I’m racking my brains to think if there are any other airframes flying that are actually Handley Page built (even major componants), or as they designed them still flying. Most civil Jetstreams that are flying are different beasts to these early srs1 aircraft, and I can’t think of any historic HP aircraft still flying?
Didn’t HP build some Canberras under licence…? any of those still flying…?
Zeb
By: pagen01 - 11th March 2011 at 12:28
Being a bit fussy here, but I’m prety sure that Westland referred to it’s helicopters as S-55, S-58 etc for the civil market, same as S-51 / Dragonfly etc.
By: Zebedee - 11th March 2011 at 12:22
VC10, Agusta A109, Westland Wessex and Whirlwind, DHC Beaver,Sud Aviation Alouette, DH Comet…
By: pagen01 - 11th March 2011 at 12:22
Comet, Argosy, VC-10, Britannia are some that haven’t.
I thought types were renamed if there were significant changes or use, ie HS125 srs1 /Dominie and 748/Andover?
I’m racking my brains to think if there are any other airframes flying that are actually Handley Page built (even major componants), or as they designed them still flying. Most civil Jetstreams that are flying are different beasts to these early srs1 aircraft, and I can’t think of any historic HP aircraft still flying?
By: J31/32 - 11th March 2011 at 12:15
Britannia? Argosy?
🙂