March 5, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Can anyone outthere identify this item and its location on what aircraft? Lanc or Lincoln have been muted, The tag says Binrook 86, but I dont believe it to be Lightning?


By: Bruce - 9th February 2015 at 11:31
There’s one on eBay UK at the moment.
By: Ghostrider870 - 9th February 2015 at 10:04
Sea Venom relay panel
Apologies for dragging up an old thread but I’ve been on the hunt for one of these for some time.
I’m currently restoring the fuselage pod of ex RAN FAW-53 WZ-897 for the Camden museum of aviation
897 is a fairly significant airframe historically as it was the first FAW-53 to fly in Australia and it was modified
to carry the torpedo and release gear assembly of an IKARA missle to carry out drop tests of the torpedo during the weapons development.
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If anyone has one they’d like to part with I’d be very interested in hearing from you. Once I get one I can start installing the pilots ejection seat.
Cheers
Steve Long
Supervisor Camden Museum of Aviation.
By: scott.bouch - 12th February 2013 at 03:39
110% Lightning.
JB154 is where the seat PEC’s, intercom amplifier, and radio interface.
Definitely used in the T5, not so sure about single-seaters. In the T5 it’s located in the spine, opposite to the battery compartment, just behind the elephants ear.
Telebrief (NOT to be confused with Intercom or Radio) as far as I understand was a private hardwired comms from pilot, wired directly to whoever would be giving mission instructions privately. Telebrief would cut the radio out of the circuit so as to not transmit the conversation, even the ground crew headset intercom socket is cut off by using Telebrief. the Telebrief connector under the wing was a fairly large rubber plug with 7 pins (2 to operate a relay in the aircraft, 4 for comms, 1 for a Telebrief button in the cockpit), about the size and shape of a large wine glass.
The ground crew would plug a headset in using the large Bakelite WW2 style comms socket located near to the telebrief plug, using an adapter cable to NATO socket for an Amplivox headset. This was just connected to the Intercom and Radio, not Telebrief.
Cheers, Scott.
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th March 2011 at 20:50
fits in a Sea Venom, Cockpit floor to left of pilot below front edge of seat. part of the 1961 intercom. may be others too
By: mjr - 6th March 2011 at 13:58
JB154, Lightning t5. JB154 Vixen. IC coms
By: hunterxf382 - 6th March 2011 at 11:57
Telebrief! Thanks for that, I knew the name but it escaped my head this morning :diablo:
I know that my Hunter has bits & bobs fitted in the rear fuselage for it, but can’t think what they look like apart from the external socket on it’s hinged panel. Just looking at the various sockets on this box made me think of the system and wonder if it was part of it?
My comms knowledge is a bit limited as an Airframe guy 😀
By: baloffski - 6th March 2011 at 11:33
My brain’s not fully alert this morning – but what’s the name of the comms system used on QRA and the like, with a quick-disconnect bit that the groundcrew talks to aircrew via, and is designed to pull out when aircraft taxi’s out?
Just wondered if this box has some function in that?
Telebrief is the system you a thinking about, but that was a ground installation and I think Section 10D was airborne comms?
The BIN bit on the stamp will be for Binbrook. Conditioning stamps were held by SNCOs as a rule and all controlled by the Eng Records Flight. I held COT, LOS and LYN stamps in my time.
By: PeterVerney - 6th March 2011 at 11:28
My brain’s not fully alert this morning – but what’s the name of the comms system used on QRA and the like, with a quick-disconnect bit that the groundcrew talks to aircrew via, and is designed to pull out when aircraft taxi’s out?
Just wondered if this box has some function in that?
Telescramble
By: Rockhopper - 6th March 2011 at 11:26
Might the “BIN 042” tag just be a storage location, meaning literally storage bin number 042?
By: hunterxf382 - 6th March 2011 at 10:37
My brain’s not fully alert this morning – but what’s the name of the comms system used on QRA and the like, with a quick-disconnect bit that the groundcrew talks to aircrew via, and is designed to pull out when aircraft taxi’s out?
Just wondered if this box has some function in that?
By: Die_Noctuque - 6th March 2011 at 10:29
Looks (from memory) similar to the comms junction used in the Gloster Javelin, which was based at Binbrook during the 60’s.
As for why it was in stores until ’86 – don’t read too much into that, we still had crates labelled Hunter and Javelin in the main stores at RAF Marham while I was there until 2001. When the kit was finally released to back to an MU it was quite often bay serviced on Station before being dispatched, giving it a recent date on the tag.
I have a Canberra B(I)8 control yoke with a serviceable tag, stating it was bay serviced in July 1996 at Laarbruch – they were retired from there back in ’72!
By: Bucc900 - 6th March 2011 at 09:54
I was told that it was very similar to those in a Lanc as you say, but the next generation on, maybe ok for a restoration project? But whats it doing in the stores at Binners in 86?
By: hindenburg - 6th March 2011 at 00:52
Very much like the junction board for Lancs Radio operator but alot later…60`s I`d say.
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th March 2011 at 00:34
Pop it around tomoz and i will have a look for you
By: Bruce - 5th March 2011 at 17:48
Sea Venom – amongst other things I’m sure.
Bruce