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German stick grip – what type?

Here’s an item that’s been in our collection for many years, having been found amongst more ‘mundane’ scrap at the Magnesium Elektron site.

It has many similarities with German aircraft control column stick grips but we think it’s actually from a gun turret, or maybe it’s some other kind of weapon controller.

The data plate and all switches etc are missing unfortunately.

Can anyone provide a positive identification, please? A photo of such an item in situ would be splendid.

Thanks in advance for any help!

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By: Jabba - 25th February 2011 at 20:57

Turret

HGello! I am restoring a turret like that, HDL 151 A2 it is called. Armanement is a 20 mm MG 151 , equipped with a REVI E2A. Please look at the pics of my project , and this turret was on more german aircraft then the JU 188 .

Best Jabba

Any parts for this is very interesting!!

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By: ian_ - 21st February 2011 at 23:27

Your shed sounds an interesting place for a rummage, AM! A 217 yoke, now that really is something. You could charge per look for that.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st February 2011 at 23:04

It sounds to me as if you need to bring your shed (or, rather, its entire contents!) down to Shoreham old chap!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st February 2011 at 22:23

An excellent find ian_ thank you very much!

The only other German stuff I can bring to mind is the control column and yoke from A Do 217 – that’s still out in the shed too!

No hang on, there was also an instrument panel which may have been from a Ju52 or similar – the engine instruments seemed to be in triplicate. The interesting thing about that was that some of the instruments had an English translation hand painted beneath them, as though the machine had been flown over here, maybe for evaluation purposes.

I’m pretty sure that’s still out in the shed, too…:)

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By: ian_ - 21st February 2011 at 21:24

That Luftwaffe link is near pornography. Here’s a slightly grainy picture of the stick in A 188. Could they have been scrapping part of the Air Intelligence collection at the yard, or just the last of the RAF Luftwaffe collection?

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By: Rocketeer - 16th February 2011 at 20:10

I remember an article like that Alan….it was for the powered turret. ISTR the He177 had something similar

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th February 2011 at 19:34

Many thanks for the information Tony and sfp54.

If it’s JU188 that gives me something to go on, and the cockpitinstrumente site appears to have expanded quite considerably since I last visited years ago – must spend more time on there.

I’ve a vague memory of reading an article on German power operated turrets years ago but I’m jiggered if I can recall what or where. I’ve a feeling the JU188’s turret was featured in it, too. 🙁

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By: sfp54 - 16th February 2011 at 01:34

Have a look here:

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/index-englisch.htm

Go to Equipment catalogue, Equipment type, Weapon controls, Control sticks / wheels . . .

I do not see your specific type, but other turret control/gun-firing grips may bee seen (e.g., SG 5, SG 7A/B).

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By: Rocketeer - 15th February 2011 at 22:34

I have one from a Ju188 works the turret

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