January 26, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Not a 109 i know but nice nevertheless!!
By: Bograt - 27th January 2011 at 12:55
Looks like it’s in the USA to me….
By: Firebex - 26th January 2011 at 22:08
Thanks for clarifying that we thought it was as heard a rumour that it was up for sale again and might have been interested but on closer look at the photo’s it isnt as BAYV had damage to its front end after a forced landing .
By: chippie51 - 26th January 2011 at 21:10
Nord
Sorry to say that there isn’t actually that much that will swap over between the Nord and a 109. It is true to say that the structural design of the rear fuselage is the same, i.e. integral frames and skin, however the geometry is entirely different. The stringer material is, however the same profile, although I couldn’t confirm the same gauge or material spec.
There are a few minor parts which are common to both – some small parts in the aileron control system for example, but the undercarriage and structural parts of the wings are different.
The 208 and the 109 (as does the 108) do share a large number of common features and techniques, but not parts.
We had a look at a nice example last year with an eye to adding it to the collection, but with the Fiat requiring so much work and various other things going on it was decided to give it a miss.
This is not the former Biggin Hill/Peter Smith aeroplane.
George
By: MerlinPete - 26th January 2011 at 20:06
Its not the Bolton one.
Is it in the UK? one of the trucks in the background certainly isnt very British.
Pete
By: EN830 - 26th January 2011 at 19:33
I believe there is also one in a barn in Guernsey along with a FW190 2/3 scale replica.
By: Firebex - 26th January 2011 at 15:49
Current value of the airframe is circa £5k depending on documentation etc.But looking at som eof the photo’s the airframe has been robbed of spares and the cockpit is gutted so I suspect this has been used as a spares ship for other models of its breed therefore probably nearer £3,500 in value. when we could have recently purchased a true warbird for 12,000 euro’s but the owner could not provide export approval documentation.
By: Firebex - 26th January 2011 at 15:42
No its a Nord 1101 Noralpha not sure if the machine Peter Smith and I had many moons ago F-OTAN-6 G-BAYV last heard of near Bolton Lancashire in a transport yard.The photo looks promising as being it.It was at Manchester Barton for a few years then moved to Bygone times at Wigan before being sold to a local businessman
For further info the 1101 is the tricycle version developement of the ME108 built under license.The aircraft was used extensively by the French military amongst some other armed forces.
It actualy comprises about 1/3 structure compatible ME109 the whole rear fuselage if you take the spacers out realine the frames and reskin complete with tail you have a ME109 rear end about 25% of the wings also use the same basic components and a lot of comparable part numbers can be found within the original aircraft.I also believe but it was never fully confirmed that the main Undercarriage units are compatible albeit heavily modified and reversed in operation.
By: DazDaMan - 26th January 2011 at 15:38
Not even a ‘108, either. Nord 1102 Noralpha.