Have The Tubes On The IWM Typhoon Cockpit Been Swapped?

blue max

Might I make a suggestion, why don’t you go back & read my thread on the RE8 drawings ?, you will find that it is nothing more than a question about where the drawings are now, there is not one accusation against anyone, nor any kind of hint of an accusation.

Sopwith.7f1

Your RE8 Drawing post also seems to be hinting at somthing under hand to have taken place.
Maybe you need to choose your words a little more carefully, maybe its not what you are saying but how your are saying it??

pagen01

In my first post on this forum I was replying to what had been written by some one else, & agreeing with what they had said in their thread/post about what had happened to me, & confirming that I had a genuine grievence against a certain person & what he did.

In this thread, on the tubes, I am merely asking if the tubes have been replaced, for whatever reason, if they have been replaced, there may be a genuine reason for it, or it may even have been sanctioned by the IWM in some kind of deal etc.

Bob. T

The odd thing is though Sopwith is that so far your threads appear to have an accusational slant to them, indeed your first one had to be moderated.

Cheer’s for your thought’s guy’s, I will have to have another look when I go to Duxford. I’m not trying to accuse any one of anything underhand, but the change in the state of the tubes really stood out & caught my eye.

Bob. T

My old boss who worked on small aircraft said corrosion issues on light aircraft are more prevalent then he noticed in past.

“Acid Rain”?

put into a possible flyer cant really think of anything else

What’s the use swapping these tubes for corroded ones?

Cees

I’ve just reviewed my 2008 photos of the cockpit section, and I can’t see any significant pitting to any of the tubes in the pictures. Sorry I don’t have time to upload them at the moment, I can, later, if there’s interest.

Not definitive, I accept, but certainly they don’t look bad in a 1/2 doz shots of the whole structure.

Could you be ‘remembering’ one part of the tube ‘set’ as ‘good’ and now looking at another which isn’t – and wasn’t?

I don’t think it was either of those, when I first saw it, there were some places where the paint had been rubbed off, & the metal looked almost as good as new, blasting, even grit blasting does not leave a surface pitted like those tubes were when I last saw them, I had seen the cockpit section many times, up until about 10 years ago when the tubes still looked OK “very little signs of heavy corrosion”, I did not see it again until a few years ago due to having moved out of the area etc, I believe that she had supposedly been cleaned up, or used as a reference to help rebuild some thing else, it was after this that I noticed the heavy pitting.
The tubes look as though they have been replaced by some from an airframe or cockpit section that has been stood outside for a long time, I have seen the Tempest MK V sections that belong to Ted, the late Mike Cookmans Typhoon cockpit section when he had it, as well as a Tempest MK 11 not long after Doug brought them back from Poona, & they all had pitted tubes, unlike the IWM’s Typhoon cockpit when I first saw it.
It just seems strange to me that such heavy pitting could happen naturally, when the cockpit was inside most of it’s life.

Bob. T

At a guess they ‘looked’ OK but had corrosion which, when removed in the conservation process, revealed the good material under the corrosion had been pitted by it.

I’ve seen and discussed similar effects with museum conservitors.

Hi
first thoughts…. sandblasting during the restoration ?
cheers
Jerry