114 Sqn Argosy

Inky:

Yes indeedy, there was an external stores (including bombs !) role, possibly because of the Aden & Yemeni rebels trouble in the early sixties. PM me with your email and I’ll dig out something from the Vol 1 I have which shows the lugs. When I got on them, there was nil training for such a role and I can’t recall anyone ever saying they did it either, but some of the early ones at Thorney had the lugs I recall.

RPM…

If memory serves me correct, 6 x 1000 lb bombs were shown in an armament AP. Configuration was 6 carriers (each loaded with one bomb) installed 3 per fuselage side (one behind the other). Never saw it but remember the book.

These were never equal to the Beverley’s they replaced

They didn’t replace the Beverley.

XN814 was with 115 squadron at Cottesmore 74/75, I flew in her at least twice.:)

Inky:

I forgot to mention that the Cobra in later years to my recollection had a black ring around it….. to keep it in I suppose !

Yes indeedy, there was an external stores (including bombs !) role, possibly because of the Aden & Yemeni rebels trouble in the early sixties. PM me with your email and I’ll dig out something from the Vol 1 I have which shows the lugs. When I got on them, there was nil training for such a role and I can’t recall anyone ever saying they did it either, but some of the early ones at Thorney had the lugs I recall.

Yerse…”With speed I strike”, everyone but 114 had a sense of humour about it…. “Going on strike” more like it !!!

En Route we got overtaken by a Hastings once !

Still, she was a Gentleman’s aircraft, couldn’t lift much or fly very far so you got to get out and stretch your legs every few hours. Benson to Cyprus took TWO DAYS !

RPM…

These were never equal to the Beverley’s they replaced

Went for a later version thanks to the photo.

However I’ve had to go with what is on the internet so wasn’t even aware of the bomb rack lugs on the early A/C can you expand on that for me?

And I have wondered about the Squadron motto in relation to the type, who ever chose 114 as the number when they reformed must have had a sense of humour.

Inky:

XN814 was one of the early deliveries but from my log book I never flew in it so it must have been with 114 most of the time (I was on 267) and maybe went to Cottesmore after the amalgamation of 114 with 267. I can’t recall it being at Thorney with some of the other early ones.

That’s probably why Frank thinks the leader cable supernumerary tit should be on there.

Frank, you there ?

Few points….
1. I can’t see the tiny shadows that would be left by the bomb rack lugs down the side of the fuselage on the early ones.
2. Also, shouldn’t the fire door panel on the side of the No.1 engine cowl be red ? Engines were started 4,3,2,1 because the double spring back fire doors (for insertion of a CO2 nozzle) were on the LHS of the nacelles.
3. AAPP exhaust exit, now where was that ? Memory, memory ?

What was 114’s Motto… “With speed we strike” ? In an Argosy, you have to be joking !!!

Nevertheless – “Looking weally-weally niiice !”

RPM…

I had a feeling that might be the case Pagen, however like you say some seem to have it and others don’t. The majority of photos I have of the C1 seem to be lacking the sensor. It could also be the case that some had them fitted or removed during their service life, but I’m now guessing.

As for cartooning it, I think the original designers did a good enough job of it in the first place! Might add it to the ever growing list though.

If I read CplFrank right Inky I think he means the extra aerial that was contained in a blister under and to one side of the main radar blister.
I must admit that I didn’t think that all Argosies had them?

Nice illustration inky, must be begging to be turned into a ‘toon!

Do you mean the part just forward of the window as that and the inner engine exhaust plus some detail to the boom are the only two major discrepancies I can currently spot. To the info, which incidentally has been very useful.

Your image lacks the leader cable sensor.

I gave you the info a week ago.

This is where I am with the artwork so far (a few odds n sods to finish off) so any extra info would be very gratefully received.

I’ll just focus on the good news

If you have email then you can just attach the images to an email and send them over which would be very handy.

Or go to a website such as photobucket which hosts images and upload the images to there for everyone.

Either way I really appreciate the fact you have found them and can’t wait to see them.

I have a close-up slide and here is a scan of it.

I’ll just focus on the good news

If you have email then you can just attach the images to an email and send them over which would be very handy.

Or go to a website such as photobucket which hosts images and upload the images to there for everyone.

Either way I really appreciate the fact you have found them and can’t wait to see them.

The good news is that I have b/w closeups of this insignia on 138 (camo aircraft) and shots on white tail aircraft taken at Kemble in 1972/3,both as negs and on disk.
The bad news is that I have no idea how to send them!