September 9, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Hi
Does anyone have any good photos of the Belfast Telegraph Fund Spitfires or any info as to which Squadrons they were assigned to and perhaps their individual squadron code letter? Their serial numbers were:
P7683 LONDONDERRY
P7684 BELFAST
P7685 HARLANDIC
P7823 DOWN
P7832 ENNISKILLEN
P7833 PORTADOWN
P7834 MID ULSTER
P7835 BALLYMENA
P7838 FERMANAGH
P7839 CITY OF DERRY
P7840 MOUNTAINS OF MOURNE
P7841 LARNE
P7842 BANGOR
P7843 ALDERGROVE
P7849 ARMAGH
Leo McKinstrys book ‘Portrait of a Legend – Spitfire’ says there were 17 Spitfires named after places in Northern Ireland. I have only found 15.
Thanks
By: Onthecrowdline - 11th November 2010 at 06:46
Thanks roadracer. I had read that, hadn’t thought of contacting the author!
By: roadracer - 11th November 2010 at 00:31
just remembered this, doesnt give much in the way of details But i wonder of the journalist might be able to provide some help from Tele’s archives??
By: Onthecrowdline - 30th October 2010 at 21:44
Interesting reading! Thanks!
By: TomDocherty72 - 30th October 2010 at 21:00
Enniskillen
Extract from appendices of ‘Swift to Battle. Vol.1’
Spitfire Mk IIa P7832:RN-P ENNISKILLEN
Presented through the Belfast Telegraph Spitfire Shilling Fund, Mk.IIa P7832 was taken on charge at No.6 MU Brize Norton on 1 January 1941. On 12 January whilst ferrying from Brize Norton to Tangmere Fg Off W .C. Potter met deteriorating weather and had to make a forced landing at Farnborough, but overshot and hit an
obstruction, causing Category C damage. The aircraft went on the 20th to No.1 Civilian Repair Unit at Cowley for repairs, and then was flown to No.12 MU Kirkbride on 7 April, to be allotted to No.72 (Basutoland) Sqn at Acklington on 23 April, flying convoy patrols. On 9 July, Nos.72 and 74 Sqns exchanged aircraft and bases, and No.74 (Trinidad) Sqn took over P7832 for convoy patrols.
By: Onthecrowdline - 29th October 2010 at 06:35
Thanks for the offer!
By: roadracer - 28th October 2010 at 23:55
Picked up a print of the original painting at an Ulster Airshow back in the early 90’s !
Have had a look at his website and cant see a copy there. Maybe someone here can locate a copy online but i cant !
If you dont have any luck let me know and i will see if i can get some sort of digital photo thingy !
By: Onthecrowdline - 28th October 2010 at 20:14
Should’nt that be ” Stroke City ” ??? 😀
Keep us in the loop as regards the models, I presume you have seen P7823 Down coded F-TM shown in “Eglinton Eagles” by Mark Postlethwaite ?
I haven’t seen that photo. Thanks for the heads up, I’ll have to look into that. This is more of a long term project, so don’t know when I’ll have finished any models.
By: roadracer - 28th October 2010 at 18:39
I edited my initial post as I had ‘Londonderry’ and ‘City of Derry’ mixed up.
Should’nt that be ” Stroke City ” ??? 😀
Keep us in the loop as regards the models, I presume you have seen P7823 Down coded F-TM shown in “Eglinton Eagles” by Mark Postlethwaite ?
By: Onthecrowdline - 10th September 2010 at 15:35
Thanks VoyTech.
By: VoyTech - 10th September 2010 at 12:08
P7834 was RY-F with 313 Sqn
P7835 was ZF-S with 308 Sqn
P7839 was ZF-C with 308 and PK-T with 315
By: Onthecrowdline - 10th September 2010 at 03:05
spitfireman and kev35 thanks alot! Google has helped find a few individual code letters. ‘Belfast’ was DW-S, ‘Enniskillen’ RN-S, ‘Mountains of Mourne’ GW-E, ‘Aldergrove’ NK-G, and ‘Armagh’ QV-J.
By: kev35 - 9th September 2010 at 21:10
Fighter Command Losses has the following for:
P7684 – P/O A R Ross killed. Patrol. FTR after combat with Ju88 off the Isle of Wight.
P7833 – P/O C Colebrook killed. Patrol. Shot down by Me 109 of JG51 1635 off Clacton. (Possibly P7383.)
Spitfire ? P/O J Czachowski. Circus. FTR. (315 Sqdn. pilot flying with 308.) As the only other 308/315 Spitfire lost that day is accounted for it seems likely this might be P7835.
Hope this is useful, but it doesn’t help you with individual aircraft codes. I presume you have the Squadron codes?
Regards,
kev35
By: spitfireman - 9th September 2010 at 19:03
Tyrone was P7686
Antrim was P7828
Gifts of war page 364
Baz
By: Onthecrowdline - 9th September 2010 at 18:48
I edited my initial post as I had ‘Londonderry’ and ‘City of Derry’ mixed up. I found the final Spitfire was named ‘Tyrone’. So I need the serial numbers for ‘Antrim’ and ‘Tyrone’.
By: Onthecrowdline - 9th September 2010 at 16:29
I’ll have another dig later and see if I can find owt else of any interest.
Regards,
kev35
Thanks again.
By: Onthecrowdline - 9th September 2010 at 16:26
I found the 16th Spitfire. It was named ‘Antrim’ but I don’t have a serial number.
By: kev35 - 9th September 2010 at 16:26
I’ll have another dig later and see if I can find owt else of any interest.
Regards,
kev35
By: Onthecrowdline - 9th September 2010 at 16:07
Thanks for that kev35! Very useful. I’m toying with the idea of making a few models of some of these Spitfires and don’t have much to go on despite their names and serial numbers.
By: kev35 - 9th September 2010 at 15:56
P7683 – 603/111/123/58 OTU/56 OTU/58OTU. Collided with P8387 in formation and crashed, Hammering Mere farm, 19/8/43 DBF.
P7684 – 610. Missing after interception of Do215 off Isle of Wight 15/4/41.
P7685 – 610 Flew into hill in bad weather 2m NE West Dean, Sussex, 23/3/41.
P7823 – 54/504/152/504. Dived into Ground, Roughlean, near Lurgan, Co. Down 7/1/42
P7832 – 72/74/610/340/61 OTU/52 OTU/FAC Gosport/5 PAFU. SOC 28/6/45.
P7833 – 54. Missing, believed after engine failure on patrol off Clacton 20/4/41.
P7834 – 66/609/313/417/52 OTU. Collided with P9562 during practice attack and crashed near Bear Inn, Cirencester 10/9/42.
P7835 – 66/609/118/308/315. Missing while escorting Blenheims over France 24/7/41.
P7838 – 611/602/122/177/AEAF CF. SOC5/6/45.
P7839 – 74/308/315/610. Hit ground recovering from dive 1m NNW of Bewholme near Catfoss 3/10/41.
P7840 – 64/340/53 OTU/CGS. SOC 5/6/45.
P7841 – 65/616. Caught fire in dispersal pen, Tangmere, 5/3/41; DBF.
P7842 – 66/118. Bellylanded in forced landing near Ibsley 3/5/41; DBR.
P7843 – 66/118/152/306/66. Collided with P8430 5m NW of the Lizard and crashed 24/1/42.
P7849 – 19/131/Cv VA/2US/5US. To USAAF18/11/42.
Information from Air Britain’s Royal Air Force Aircraft P1000 – R9999
Hope this is useful.
Regards,
kev35