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Any ideas what these gauges may be?

I recently bought a Jetstream instrument panel as my first project and it contained two gauges which I am pretty sure are nothing to do with Jetstreams, but I can’t seem to find anything about.

They are engine gauge size and fitted really well into the position on the panel I think would normally be occupied by the turbine temp gauges.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/baloffski/IMG00037-20100530-1611-1.jpg

The gauges have F.S=1.5mA D.C; S149.3 5B5 T; No.BB.71965 in tiny lettering at the bottom of the gauge front and are marked Rel Ampl with a 1-10 scale on the front as can be seen.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/baloffski/IMG00046-20100530-1640-1-1.jpg

On the back the labels are nearly illegible but have X380-10 14 and ISS.PL6 on a label attached to the terminal block section; and S149.3.449.T; BB 26987 and FSS.1mA D.C on a paper label attached to the main body.

(I have used ; to seperate each element)

The only other information of possible relevance is all the figure 1s on the labels are in the continental sizes.

Any ideas?

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By: pagen01 - 1st June 2010 at 20:15

There is a cracking pic of the FEs desk on the VC10nderness site here:
Can anyone identify which are the engine vibration gauges?
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I’ve got my own set of hi rez VC-10 panel pics, but darned if I can find them at the mo!
I think it might be the strip meters, in the bottom right of this pic, http://www.flickr.com/photos/27914776@N08/2662466536/sizes/l/
This area seems covered over on the pic you linked to.

I can find out next time they drag a 10 out here sometime, but I would say a pointless excercise as none of the guages look like yours

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By: FoxVC10 - 1st June 2010 at 17:23

Looks like early BAC 1-11 to me. Pretty sure not related to military Jetstream at all, although im not an eggspurt on Jetstream…

Sangamo Weston manufactured
The S149- is the part number, whilst the BB… is the serial number.

some of the vibration guages on the 1-11 are “strip” gauges

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By: bazv - 1st June 2010 at 17:07

The astazou jetstream marks that i am aware of are…
J1
J2
J200
J201…T1
J201…T2

When doing development flying anyway you probably would not remove the temp gauges 🙂
Were they just hole fillers ?

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By: baloffski - 1st June 2010 at 16:05

The man who sold it referred to the panel as from a Jetstream 21 perhaps a term used for a development aircraft, but I am drawn to the probability that it is from Culdrose 562/XX483 as put forward by Pagen01.

My other rationale behind these gauges not being a development mod is the thought, that if during development vibration needed to be monitored closely, then it would probably have been done by a Flight Test Engineer sat ‘down the back’ at a console probably looking at all sorts of engine parameters.

There is a cracking pic of the FEs desk on the VC10nderness site here:

http://www.vc10.net/Photos/XV109.html

Can anyone identify which are the engine vibration gauges?

Many thanks to all who have expended thinking power on this wee poser so far – the quest continues:confused:

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By: bazv - 31st May 2010 at 19:41

I am not convinced either,unless it was from a development a/c perhaps
T 2 panel pic

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv316/volvosmoker/JetstreamPanel01.jpg

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By: pagen01 - 31st May 2010 at 19:36

I’m pretty sure that VC-10s have engine vibration guages on the engineers panel.

Your pictured guages appear to be where the engine temp guages are normally positioned

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By: baloffski - 31st May 2010 at 19:31

Unfortunately the screws are captive to the panel, tightening a collar arrangement at the back which clamps the gauge in place, so that explains the paint being a good match.

I am still unconvinced about Astazou engines needing vibration gauges. I even had a look at Dauphin Helicopter cockpit images out there and haven’t seen such gauges (yet?). I imagine rotary would be more reliant on constant vib monitoring so I am still scratching my head!

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By: Blue_2 - 31st May 2010 at 00:02

The screws look to be fairly well painted in…

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By: Augsburgeagle - 30th May 2010 at 22:15

Vibration gauge, it is important if your about to have an impending engine failure if you don’t shut it down!

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By: baloffski - 30th May 2010 at 21:54

That was my initial thought but I can’t see why the amplitude of an engines vibration signature would be of any use to a pilot?

On RB199 engines there is a system that monitors engine vibration, but that simply triggers a CWP warning at a pre-determined threshold. Is the Astazou really so vibration sensitive that you need to monitor in flight?

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By: smirky - 30th May 2010 at 21:29

Just a guess – could they be engine vibration gauges?

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