May 29, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Short clip on YouTube of a rather rough landing of the French FW 190 at La Ferte. 😮 At least the landinggear seems to be sturdy……
Michael
P.S.: Don´t let the headline irritate you, it´s definitely not a Messerschmitt, it´s a Flugwerk FW 190
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th June 2010 at 16:50
Moggy C Quote:
Originally Posted by Miggers
What was safer though?let it bounce and make it stick or open up to go around again?Open up. Every time.
Open up, every time???
Is that imput from your many hours flying high performance taildraggers?
By: Moggy C - 6th June 2010 at 15:36
What was safer though?let it bounce and make it stick or open up to go around again?
Open up. Every time.
No need to slam the throttle wide, you try not to do that on a radial at any time. Just gently feed in the power, correcting with rudder as necessary, fly the circuit and set the whole approach up again and do a nice safe landing.
However the pilot in the clip was PIC. He is almost certainly a better judge than we forum experts. On the other hand the pictures of the ground-looped 190 elsewhere today might lead you to think pilots, even experienced ones, don’t get it right every time.
Moggy
By: Miggers - 1st June 2010 at 13:11
Ooh,that was a bit bouncy.
Like’s been said,it just shows how strong that undercart is.
The deflection on the stb’d leg must’ve been measured in inches rather than
millimeters.
What was safer though?let it bounce and make it stick or open up to go around again?
Given the prop torque that must be produced,he probably took the safer option and yes,if it’d have been a 109 or Buchon I too reckon there’d have been a clatter.
Mark
By: pagen01 - 1st June 2010 at 06:26
Curiosity got me I thought something was banned in france, it is the swastika flag.
Presumably the swatika on it’s own is a loophole ?
As far as I’m aware Airfix dropped the swastika symbol from its aircraft decal sheets during it’s French ownership period (not a good one for the firm anyway).
I didn’t think that it had ever been banned from being applied to historic aircraft.
Banning it as a flag and a symbol for a political group is an entirely different issue, I dare say there is some kind of law banning/restricting its use in this and many other countries,
and using a modicum of common sense, one not very appropriate to historic aircraft discussion.
Let’s just talk about the pretty ‘Butcher Bird’:cool:
By: brewerjerry - 1st June 2010 at 01:20
Hi
Curiosity got me I thought something was banned in france, it is the swastika flag.
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/qt-z_ban.html
Presumably the swatika on it’s own is a loophole ?
cheers
Jerry
By: Dr Strangelove - 31st May 2010 at 22:37
Some firms sell the the Ol’ swozzy cut diagonally in half, thus making it perfectly legal even in countries where this ancient symbol is banned.
Damn silly if you ask me, it was how the aircraft was & how it should be depicted, surely such censorship is against the freedoms that the war was all about, plus I sincerely doubt a 1/72nd kit with a swozzy on the tail would torch off the fouth reich:rolleyes:
Talk about a paradox :rolleyes:
By: Mark Hazard - 31st May 2010 at 22:28
Hi
I never realised they allowed the use of the tail swastika in France.
Odd, as I seem to remember the model kits I bought in France, all had them removed from the decal sheet.
Cheers
Jerry
I had a word with a man from Airfix last year about this. He said that Swastikas are omitted from all their decal sheets nowadays, as the kits are sold with the same artwork and contents all over the world, including the one country that doesn’t allow them. His answer to authenticity when building models was that there a number of decal manufacturers that still sell decals with the Swastika on them – but I wonder for how long.
I assume that the “kill” markings for allied aircraft also have the Swastikas either removed or changed.
By: HuwJHopkins - 31st May 2010 at 20:44
If they’re thinking of flying the 190 to Pembrey for a certain anniversary it’ll be interned !
:D;)
By: mike currill - 31st May 2010 at 20:23
Boomps-a-daisy….
You can teach… Monkeys to fly better than that:D. Sorry AJ diddn’t read althe way through the thread and repeated your sentiment. Oh well typical of me to miss the important bit.
By: Sealand Tower - 31st May 2010 at 16:48
If they’re thinking of flying the 190 to Pembrey for a certain anniversary it’ll be interned !
By: AdlerTag - 31st May 2010 at 15:01
Good point, well presented Ian!
Not being quite up to speed with events, are there any flying FW190s / reps in the UK to see at any of the airshows this year?
None UK-based, but the one in the video clip came over for Legends last year, so perhaps it will be over again this year. 🙂 It’s also rumoured that one of the Meier Motors FW’s might perform in Europe/UK for a short time before it departs to the US. It hasn’t flown yet though…
By: EHVB - 31st May 2010 at 14:36
Hi
I never realised they allowed the use of the tail swastika in France.
Odd, as I seem to remember the model kits I bought in France, all had them removed from the decal sheet.
Cheers
Jerry
Apart from Germany, where it isn’t allowed, no other country in Europe has any problems. let alone a law that forbids it, with the swastika on the tail.
BW R
By: pagen01 - 31st May 2010 at 12:38
Good point, well presented Ian!
Not being quite up to speed with events, are there any flying FW190s / reps in the UK to see at any of the airshows this year?
By: Ian Quinn - 31st May 2010 at 12:33
Agree yakman – pity that a video is posted of that rather than it’s displays…
By: yakman - 31st May 2010 at 02:44
Marc (leon) is definitly a great pilot and all we can say is that the french crew that make possible that FW190 to fly for so many hours since last year have done much more than any other FW in the world, they did again a huge work on the landing gear, the electrical systems etc…
By: brewerjerry - 30th May 2010 at 22:31
Hi
I never realised they allowed the use of the tail swastika in France.
Odd, as I seem to remember the model kits I bought in France, all had them removed from the decal sheet.
Cheers
Jerry
By: Ian Quinn - 30th May 2010 at 22:25
We were at the pumps getting some gas when it was towed out…
It certainly looked the works what with it’s shape, colour scheme and the pilot hunched forward ….made the Griffon powered Spitfire that went at the same time look positively benign…
By: Dr Strangelove - 30th May 2010 at 20:51
By: Ian Quinn - 30th May 2010 at 19:52
Well – he was flying it beautifully at Dijon Darois the day he took it up to the show…




By: Red Hunter - 30th May 2010 at 19:33
Indeed, Bruce, a bouncy landing makes news now!