The New Red Baron Film

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Man, I’ve not heard that song in YEARS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxzg_iM-T4E

rock on….

Great book.

No, a bloody brilliant book.

I can see that: “You’re a ****, Killion!”

Ah yes. They don’t write them like that any more! “It’s a machine gun on a swivel thing, and you swing it backwards and forwards, scything. That’s what it’s called, scything. Sixty thousand in one hour was the record, it may have been beaten by now, I don’t know, I don’t read the papers. That was their machine guns, of course, and we supplied the sixty thousand, but the principle is exactly the same…”

I wouldn’t bother – its rubbish. It is also very confused regarding the sequence of history and the aircraft that historical figures flew in (especially Lanoe Hawker) 🙁

Mike

I was also surprised to ‘learn’ that Lanoe Hawker was a fat bloke with a goatee

That’s why I thought Derek Robinson’s ‘Goshawk Squadron’, with it’s bluntly anti-Biggles theme would make a great movie, if nothing else to get away from the knights of the air cliche.

I can imagine Jason Streatham as Woolley: “You treat this aircraft as if it owes you money. You get your hands on it and drive it as though you’re mowing the bleeding lawn. Lawnmower! Gutless bloody lawnmower!” (This quite forcibly put across as Woolley sinks his boot into the pilot’s ribs……..)

Can’t see Algy doing that to Ginger.

I can see that: “You’re a ****, Killion!”

You guys really have to get over to Omaka..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bf9sjStT5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeflHKIlGsI&feature=related

After 70+ years of films about the Great War…Wings, Hell’s Angels, Dawn Patrol, The Blue Max, Aces High, Von Richthofen and Brown, The Great Waldo Pepper, Flyboys, Red Baron...plus 40 years of TV comics taking the mickey out of those films…Monty Python, Blackadder, etc…
Let’s face it anything done in the future is going to seem like a chiche.

That’s why I thought Derek Robinson’s ‘Goshawk Squadron’, with it’s bluntly anti-Biggles theme would make a great movie, if nothing else to get away from the knights of the air cliche.

I can imagine Jason Streatham as Woolley: “You treat this aircraft as if it owes you money. You get your hands on it and drive it as though you’re mowing the bleeding lawn. Lawnmower! Gutless bloody lawnmower!” (This quite forcibly put across as Woolley sinks his boot into the pilot’s ribs……..)

Can’t see Algy doing that to Ginger.

I wouldn’t bother – its rubbish. It is also very confused regarding the sequence of history and the aircraft that historical figures flew in (especially Lanoe Hawker) 🙁

Mike

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Man, I’ve not heard that song in YEARS!!!!

Really wasn’t a case of

“After the turn of the century”

I give it

“Ten, Twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more”

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Man, I’ve not heard that song in YEARS!!!!

Hi,

I’m interested to hear anyones general thoughts on the
recent German film “The Red Baron”, I’m intending to
watch it and was keen to get a list of aircraft that
appear.

I give it

“Ten, Twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more”

After 70+ years of films about the Great War…Wings, Hell’s Angels, Dawn Patrol, The Blue Max, Aces High, Von Richthofen and Brown, The Great Waldo Pepper, Flyboys, Red Baron...plus 40 years of TV comics taking the mickey out of those films…Monty Python, Blackadder, etc…
Let’s face it anything done in the future is going to seem like a chiche.

Unless someone comes up with something totally new (which would probably be so revisionist no one here would like it)…:rolleyes:
WWI flying films have probably reached a dead end.

Even then, they’ll have to use a lot of CGI…in which case no one here will like it…:rolleyes:

BTW: Flyboys wan’t THAT bad. I went to it expecting a Indiana Jones-type (albeit on a lower budget) homage to 1930s action films and serials…and wasn’t disappointed.
I wasn’t expecting a documentary or a lot of deep introspection. Just a bit of fun.

Aces High is probably as good a WW1 flying movie as we will ever get.

Indeed. It’s always been a firm favourite since I bought it about 15 years ago!

It has its faults, granted, but I’ll take Aces High over The Blue Max or Hell’s Angels any day of the week…!

Aces High is probably as good a WW1 flying movie as we will ever get.

What else is there to be said about that part of the conflict?

Moggy

As oppsed to Goshawk Squadron, there’s plenty of true, far more interesting stories out there which would make a great film – ‘Flying Minnows’ for example

Unfortunately, the truth is not always the best subject for a great film.

It would actually be nice if someone would wake up to the fact that Richtofen was never called ‘The Red Baron’, by the Allies or the Germans.

The Red Battle Flier
The Red Devil
The Jolly Red Baron
The Bloody Red Baron

He used some of them in a 12 minute film to test out a new type of camera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A

As oppsed to Goshawk Squadron, there’s plenty of true, far more interesting stories out there which would make a great film – ‘Flying Minnows’ for example

As for Red Baron, complete waste of time

I’ll check that out later.

I seem to recall in an interview with Jackson that one of the reasons he kick-started his WW1 recreations was the distinct lack of accurate replica airframes used in Aces High – the SE5As were, of course, modified Stampe SV4s, with some painted up Tiger Moths and a few others used as “The Hun”….

Why would the scriptwriters have MvR meeting Roy Brown in no man’s land?
Roy Brown didn’t shoot him down

Evidence about credit is far from conclusive in any of the claim cases.
Whether he did or not, R.B. is officially credited with shooting him down .
There have been many attemts to disprove this but none have been successful enough to change the official record.
Every country wants to say they shot down MVR. Armchair Revisionist historians are a dime a dozen and most are not worth that dime. Most of them bend evidence to suit their needs.:diablo:
As for Brown himself, he claimed what he felt he did and then let it alone and would not comment on the incident for the rest of his life. Afterall this is the killing of a person by himself. As with most WW1 vets, he had the class and
dignity to not want to discuss killing of someone by his own hand.
Anyway , I think we have beat this topic to death on this forum a many many times It is a discussion tha will never have an ending.

He used some of them in a 12 minute film to test out a new type of camera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpTHFVBlm_A

As oppsed to Goshawk Squadron, there’s plenty of true, far more interesting stories out there which would make a great film – ‘Flying Minnows’ for example

As for Red Baron, complete waste of time

With Peter Jackson’s well known interest in WW1 aviation, and the collection of WW1 types that he owns, you would have though that we would have seen the definutive WW1 aerial flick from him years ago!

Wonder if he’s ever considered it?

Regards;
Steve